Why I'm Still a Christian

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So, you're a moral relativist, then?

No. We are follow Christ and that's where my morality comes from. We are to leave justice to God.

You're ignoring the fact that Job had to suffer explicitly because of a bet your god made. The fact that he would torment a living being for the sake of teaching Satan a lesson is revolting. Would you set a cat on fire to teach your son its dangers?

I would need to talk to Job now and see if he is sorry about what he had to go through. My feeling is that he is very happy right now; maybe more so because of what he went through.

... except by their god, who will torture them in Hell.

Some choice, eh?

Or maybe just because they think they are doing the right thing.

Climb down off the cross, there. How many Christians die for Christ each year? Be specific, and cite your sources.

I don't know. I just read the news.

And yes, every human who lives gets the shaft, because your allegedly merciful god was unable to forgive Adam and Eve their trespasses.

He has forgiven Adam and Eve and everyone else who ever lived. We just need to make the choice to accept it.

Sorry, but your god is either evil, impotent in some respects, or incompetent. You cannot have omnipotence, perfect mercy, extant evil, and Hell. You must sacrifice one of those things. You clearly cannot sacrifice evil in this argument, as the world is full of its examples. You cannot sacrifice Hell, as it is written into your bible. You must therefore sacrifice the omnipotence of your god, or his merciful nature. The problem for you is that both those qualities are also affirmed in your holy book.

You could do the simplest thing, and abandon the pile of contradictions. But that requires a stout heart.

Why is it evil to give us our own choice between heaven or hell? Many of you in this forum have already said you would prefer to go to hell where all your friends will be. Here's God: "Jesus has atoned for your sins and I want to you to come and live with me for an eternity of bliss. The alternative is suffering away from me. Take your pick. It's up to you. I just want to let you know that life apart from me will be torment." Here's you: "No thanks man. I don't like you, so I'm taking hell. I don't believe it's torment. I think you're just trying to hide the fact that Satan throws great parties."