RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 5, 2015 at 9:49 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2015 at 10:09 pm by Lek.)
(March 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So, instead of providing a good reason why your god would do those things, you just answer, "God works in mysterious ways". Yeah, that solves it.
That's not how I answered the question. I answered honestly and said I don't know. He is the creator and only he knows why.
Quote:How does it work out for those who follow him? Christians die and suffer from disease at the exact same rates as people of other religions, or no religions. Christians that lived in New Orleans were killed, injured and lost property at the same rates as non-Christians.
It goes well for christians because we have comfort as we go through these things, knowing that God is with us, and we have hope that there are better things coming. As a believer I don't harbor a lot of anxiety over stuff like that and can live my life more calmly.
Quote:And this is the petty god that you worship? "I could save all these people, but they don't follow me, so, let them suffer and die".
No. Like you stated earlier, christians died, were injured and lost property the same as everyone else. But as I said above........
Quote:How can you not see that a god that would require worship in order to assure that "all goes well" for his creations, is despicable?
Maybe from your point of view. but I think we should give everyone his due.
Quote:Any god that would only reward those that follow and worship him, and punish all the rest of humanity, is the one that needs to apologize.
You just don't want to give God his due. That's called pride. You are right, in that in order to be his followers we must serve him.
Quote:You have sacrificed your own morality in deference to a god that behaves in ways you would never excuse in a human.
How have I sacrificed my morality? I'm not perfect, but try to live the most moral life that I can.
Quote:If your god actually existed, and the Bible (NT and OT) is any example of his behavior, he should be fought against with all humanity's might. Not worshiped.
You've got it all wrong, and I wish I could make you see it as it really is, but I'll let you have the last word.
(March 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Why would a god ignore women of third world countries who don't have access to doctors or pain meds?
He doesn't ignore them. He has instructed us to care for our brothers and sisters in the world, but we don't follow him. If everyone followed the teachings of Jesus, everyone would have needed medications.
(March 5, 2015 at 9:47 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: I see. Just the earth then? So, you live on this planet, you see how this place is an inherent death trap for us (radiation, viruses/disease, tidal disasters, earth quakes, shortage of natural resources etc.), and you dont see any problematic implications this for a belief that this place is the handy work of a loving and omniscient deity with us in mind at the focal point?
You guys talk about how the world is a cesspool, but then talk about how great your lives are as atheists. It never ceases to amaze me. You speak as if it's us christians who are not experiencing the fullness of life here because of our belief in God. Yes, I think that God can make a world like this, then accompany us on our journey here, and then take us home to him. We can have peace in this world.