RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 8, 2015 at 10:31 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2015 at 10:38 pm by Mudhammam.)
(March 8, 2015 at 8:38 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote:TRS, maybe you'll like the original story better:(March 8, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: God commanded him not to eat of the fruit of the tree and he disobeyed him and did eat of it.Weren't Adam and Eve immortals pre-Apple? If death was a result of the original sin, and eating an apple WAS the original sin, why were they even hungry in the first place? Eating is something us mortal people do to survive, but it doesn't seem like they had that motive. This story is retarded.
Quote:He laid her down all alone in Dilmun, and the place where Enki had lain down with his spouse, that place was still virginal, that place was still pristine...From "Enki and Ninhursag," our earliest copies which pre-date the Genesis myth by a thousand years.
In Dilmun the raven was not yet cawing, the partridge not cackling. The lion did not slay, the wolf was not carrying off lambs, the dog had not been taught to make kids curl up, the pig had not learned that grain was to be eaten...
No eye-diseases said there: "I am the eye disease." No headache said there: "I am the headache." No old woman belonging to it said there: "I am an old woman." No old man belonging to it said there: "I am an old man." No maiden in her unwashed state ...... in the city. No man dredging a river said there: "It is getting dark." No herald made the rounds in his border district...
She grew the 'tree' plant, she grew the 'honey' plant, she grew the 'vegetable' plant, she grew the esparto grass (?), she grew the atutu plant, she grew the actaltal plant, she grew the ...... plant, she grew the amharu plant.
Enki was able to see up there from in the marsh, he was able to see up there, he was. He said to his minister Isimud: "I have not determined the destiny of these plants. What is this one? What is that one?"
His minister Isimud had the answer for him. "My master, the 'tree' plant," he said to him, cut it off for him and Enki ate it. "My master, the 'honey' plant," he said to him, pulled it up for him and Enki ate it. "My master, the 'vegetable' plant," he said to him, cut it off for him and Enki ate it. "My master, the alfalfa grass (?)," he said to him, pulled it up for him and Enki ate it.
"My master, the atutu plant," he said to him, cut it off for him and Enki ate it. "My master, the actaltal plant," he said to him, pulled it up for him and Enki ate it. "My master, the ...... plant," he said to him, cut it off for him and Enki ate it. "My master, the amharu plant," he said to him, pulled it up for him and Enki ate it. Enki determined the destiny of the plants, had them know it in their hearts.
Ninhursaja cursed the name Enki: "Until his dying day, I will never look upon him with life-giving eye."
(full text: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etc...&charenc=j# )
I would really like to see Lek try to rationalize the historical content of this story.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza