RE: Why are all Atheists Stalin loving, pinkos??
March 8, 2015 at 11:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2015 at 11:46 pm by Dystopia.)
I don't think it requires force, the only force you need is to overthrow capitalism and the bourgeoisie, but after that the working class is supposed to democratically organize society - In theory, since the labour class is about 95-99% of the population, if there was a consensus they wouldn't have a problem stripping wealth away from a few rich guys.
But in practice it ends up requiring force - Lenin made some exceptions and used too much authority, he violated the marxist doctrine and allowed a little capitalism. Stalin created a whole new political ideology, stalinism - I've met a person that holds the exact same core principles of stalinism, and my guess is that we're better of individualizing it because it differs from marxism on many points.
I think capitalism was implemented trough some force as well - The French revolution wasn't peaceful, and capitalism wasn't a happy system in the first 100-150 years (races to the bottom and corporate dictatorship) - Now we have a better system, but it wasn't always perfect. The ideals of the French revolution were beautiful, but in practice the unrestricted market at the time resulted in extreme levels of poverty and strong class inequality - That gave birth to the welfare state later after the second world war.
But in practice it ends up requiring force - Lenin made some exceptions and used too much authority, he violated the marxist doctrine and allowed a little capitalism. Stalin created a whole new political ideology, stalinism - I've met a person that holds the exact same core principles of stalinism, and my guess is that we're better of individualizing it because it differs from marxism on many points.
I think capitalism was implemented trough some force as well - The French revolution wasn't peaceful, and capitalism wasn't a happy system in the first 100-150 years (races to the bottom and corporate dictatorship) - Now we have a better system, but it wasn't always perfect. The ideals of the French revolution were beautiful, but in practice the unrestricted market at the time resulted in extreme levels of poverty and strong class inequality - That gave birth to the welfare state later after the second world war.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you