There are some atheists that believe in an empirical objective morality.
I dispute that idea. Namely because I have seen no empirical evidence for the existence of objective morality and no believer in an empirical objective morality has presented evidence for that empirical objective morality.
They have presented what they think to be evidence, but the 'evidence' has invariably been some version of a non sequitur. Most often, it has been a variant of the naturalist fallacy.
But the conclusion that natural is moral should not be exempt from the necessary proofs of valid evidence and reasoning.
I dispute that idea. Namely because I have seen no empirical evidence for the existence of objective morality and no believer in an empirical objective morality has presented evidence for that empirical objective morality.
They have presented what they think to be evidence, but the 'evidence' has invariably been some version of a non sequitur. Most often, it has been a variant of the naturalist fallacy.
But the conclusion that natural is moral should not be exempt from the necessary proofs of valid evidence and reasoning.