RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 12, 2015 at 10:24 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2015 at 10:35 pm by Godscreated.)
(March 12, 2015 at 3:13 pm)RobertE Wrote:(March 12, 2015 at 2:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: I didn't say that, why do you and the rest a have a hard time understanding things. I said the evidence is for me and if you want the same evidence you'll have to make changes and find it yourselves. You can't prove I do not have such evidence, but you'll disregard it at the toss of a hat. You have no interest in finding out what the Christians here know, blinding yourselves allows you to stay safe in your non-belief.
GC
The burden is on you to provide evidence to the contary that "God", exists. There is a great deal of difference between Richard Dawkins stating that "we cannot prove he doesn't exist", and the bible stating God does indeed exist. As far as the bible is concerned, it is an affirmation, whereas from Dawkins, it is speculative. Either way, you have to prove rather than the other way around.
You're absolutely wrong, I do not have to prove anything, giving my testimony of why I believe is what's asked of me. On the other hand, it's your responsibility to find out about God for yourself.
GC
(March 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm)robvalue Wrote: I can't prove you don't have evidence, no. But that's not the way claims work. I don't need to go around proving every negative in the universe before I can move on to what is tangible and supported.
There is no negative, you believe there is so you want have to live a life different than you do, fine that's your choice, but God puts proving His existence on himself.
Quote:You claim to be certain your god exists. The fact that you think you are infallible about what you think you know and can't be mistaken or deceived shows that it's not possible to have meaningful discussion.
I do not claim, I know God exists. I am infallible about know God exists and why shouldn't I be, He proved to me He's real, as promised. Oh, so a person has to be fallible in all parts of his life to have a meaningful discussion, fine, good to know you are. I'm fallible in most parts of my life, but when God proves Himself to a person He leaves no reasons to doubt, sorry you can't accept this.
Quote:A million people all giving me personal evidence amounts to nothing. It doesn't matter what you think you know, it matters what you can demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt.
It's not what I think I know, it's what's been proven to me. If you haven't the fortitude to find out that I could be right, fine, it's your loss.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
