Evolution as evidence for atheism

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Evolution is a basis for Atheism even though it does prove anything. GOD did not use evolution as this puts Death before man. "Billions of years" of death had to occur then Adam appeared and Eve made from Adam. Then all of a sudden everything is perfect for however many years. Then death resumes it toll as Adam falls. The Bible says that Death entered in the world by man (Physical). If there was death before man then the Bible is wrong for this is a contradiction violating the law of non-contradiction. If he made these earthly bodies in Billions of years through evolution why would He be able to give us our glorified bodies in a "Twinkling of an eye?" Since it took "billions of years" ro create the old earth - how long will he take to create the new earth? Billions of years? Just as Apostle Paul on Mars Hill debated a form of evolutionary theory in Acts 17.

On the Atheist Evolutionist part I want to ask them how knowledge is possible. Let's start with the beginning of the universe. In their worldview they believe that the universe Spontaneously started or the BB - Big Bang. Problems with the Big Bang:

1) Where are all the Population III stars?
2) Where is the anti-matter the universe needs to prove a Big Bang?
3) Who was their to witness the beginning happen and document down its existence happening?
-- They have to assume the BB happened without 100% knowing it ever happened since they were not there billions of years ago - nor can you test the past. They say they look at the present evidence and draw conclusions. But how do they not know that over that "billions of years" it has or has not changed in which determines truly what happened? They cannot prove it - since they do not know the past.

It could not happen spontaneously since Something cannot will itself into existence since it would have no nature. Without a nature it has no attributes, without attributes something cannot will itself into existence since it could not produce such actions. A stone knife could not become a knife unless someone acted upon the rock to make it that. A painting could not become a painting until the paper was acted upon by a painter. A building could not become a building until the materials to build a building were acted upon by an outside force to build a building. Just as the universe could not have been the universe until it was acted upon from an outside force to create the universe.

Everything in Atheism and Evolution (which they both go together) is based upon relativism. If we are subject unto no one but ourselves that means we can believe whatever we want and cannot condemn others for they believe according to our standards. To someone killing may be wrong since it is murder but to an evolutionist it might be considered right since he is just trying to survive (only the strong survive). How could one condemn someone else based upon their own moral standard if the other person has their moral standard also? How could we know what is right and wrong in this dog eat dog world? I am not saying Atheists cannot be moral because they can. Some may say that society's and government's make the moral standard for people. Well, just because the government has a standard for right and wrong does that make what is right - right and wrong - wrong? No. Just because they set what is right and wrong that is what they BELIEVE is right and wrong. So, how do we know what is right and wrong if there was no absolute basis for the cause of morality? It is universally accepted that killing is murder -- that is until you take GOD out of the subject but they will know what they have done if the committed murder even if their tradition says its alright. For something to be universally accept it has to be absolute (a standard non-changing).

If everything was relative and we did not need absolutes to determine truth then how do we know 2 + 2 = 4?
Is it only 4 because you believe it is 4? Is it because of where you live that makes it 4? Just because the majority of people believe it is 4 does it make it 4 ? No. Or is it a universal law that is accepted as fact that 2 + 2 = 4? This is an absolute - The Law of Mathematics. But Atheists do not need logical absolutes since we have no higher power to set those standards. No man can decide for what mankind is to believe since he is equal to all other human beings. I can type more, but I got church to attend. Be Blessed my Brethren.

Bro.Matthew

here we go again.

By the way Atheism is not a world view.

We just dont believe in god, (and why would we?)

Anyway, welcome to the forum.