RE: Deism, Atheism, and False Dilemmas
March 15, 2015 at 11:04 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2015 at 11:11 pm by remagination.)
(March 15, 2015 at 10:07 am)Rhythm Wrote: Did you determine that a particular -archetype- of anthropomorphism was the basis for improbability, or all archetypes? The field may be even larger than you suppose, or can suppose.Let us see --- I could come up with a partial list of anthropomorphic traits.
(as you said, ought to be thorough with regards to whether or not we've excluded something from our sample)
Anthropomorphism #1: God has agenda: Whether it be God's vast Master Plan or simply God's plan to teach you strength by giving you a medical condition that will preclude you from ever having a normal life ---- all these things imply that God has some kind of agenda -- which is an anthropomorphism.
Anthropomorphism #2: God as a parent: And as the patriarchial culture is so pervasive, "parent" becomes "father". Anyway --- any notion of God loving us is an extension of this anthropomorphism.
(March 15, 2015 at 10:21 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, you could consider those. Though I was never very impressed with deism or pantheism. Probably because I grew up christian, and don't see the point of believing in a god that isn't there, or doesn't care, or is the trees and rivers and rock and such. There's no reason to worship something like that, and I won't be rewarded or punished, so I don't see the point.A valid point ---- seeing as I have determined that the term "God" is actually a title. From that, one could suggest (though not necessarily prove) that God is whatever being you worship. But it would also beg the question of - how do you define 'worship'? Building altars and sacrificing goats and pigeons? Not all conventional religions do that.
So how do you define 'worship'?
(March 15, 2015 at 10:25 am)Nestor Wrote: Strip God of the anthropomorphism and you're left with a totally inconsequential metaphysical monster defined by nothing but the negation of boundaries... and then suddenly it begins to look suspiciously non-existent.Not necessarily.
For example --- if one sees God as being whatever is all-powerful --- and then determines that the laws of physics are all-powerful --- then would the Laws of Physics not be that person's non-anthropomorphic God?
(March 15, 2015 at 11:36 am)Chad32 Wrote: It's just funny that the Abrahamic faiths have a deity that's a narcissist, yet also hides in the ether and refuses to show himself. I know he's not the first monotheistic deity, but was Zoroaster like this? Are there still Zoroastrians around that can tell us if he's as self centered and thin skinned as Yahweh?Zoroaster isn't considered a deity in Zoroastrianism, but a prophet. The supreme godhead deity in Zoroastrianism is Ahura Mazda.