(March 22, 2015 at 10:19 am)Brian37 Wrote:(March 22, 2015 at 10:13 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: You really cant have the new testament standing on its own. The old testament has original sin, the commandments, the prophecies, and creation, without those the new testament doesn't make any sense.
All religions do this. Cherry picking allows everyone to move the goal posts.
The thing both right wing and liberal religious people, of all religions, forget is that they use the exact same books with the exact same words to justify what really amounts to social pecking orders.
You can justify both cruelty and compassion in any holy book. It still amounts to defending tribalism putting those who dont read that book the way you do in the position of being the "other", whom at best, are guests but most of the time the "outsider".
Ya I understand that, I just mean that jesus doesn't happen without the creation of humans, the concept of sin, the prophecy, and the law to fulfill. The new testament stories don't work at all without the old testament. So if he is looking for an argument against Christians who want argue from the new testament only I think that would be a huge problem for them.