RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 23, 2015 at 4:51 pm
(This post was last modified: March 23, 2015 at 5:23 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(March 20, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Mohammed married a 9-year-old. That pretty much makes him a pedophile, all special pleading aside ... no matter his motivation.
That's what the Sunnis believe (that Asha was nine when her marriage to Mohamed was consummated). The Shia disagree. Why do you think the Sunnis are right?
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote:Quote:a woman who is Algerian (Sunni Islam)
You said it yourself ; that she was a Sunni. Thus you can't generalize on all Muslims.
I'm quoting Lot & what he said to the people of Soddom :
( 165 ) Do you approach males among the worlds
( 166 ) And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh
So my pov (the same as Lot) is injected from the fact, that if homosexuality was to spread so widely in a society, forming like 99% of the population, then we look at a dead society.
Homosexuality doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that 'spreads'. It's consistently a small percentae of the population, even in cultures that are accepting of it. Your hyptothetical carries zero weight, but does serve as an example of the prediction that 'it's not natural' is a typical argument.
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: But, as God says loud & clear ; that there shall be "no compulsion in religion", then again, it's a matter of personal choice ; if a person wants to be gay, nobody should stop him/her. Don't they have a god ? who appointed me as a judge ??
People aren't gay because they want to be gay. People aren't straight because they want to be straight. We are all what we are. I couldn't be attracted to men if I wanted to be. If I could, I would reckon that I am bisexual.
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: The problem is with humans who want to force their thoughts & opinions on others, I personally have no problem with gays, aside from the above : that their act is destructive to the natural mating process & to the natural process of producing babies.
Can you give an example of a homosexual act preventing other people from having babies? If it's no skin off anyone else's nose, how is it destructive? And, newsflash: gay people can have children if they want, without resorting to technology. They are not incapable of breeding, provided they are willing to make an exception to their general rule of only having sex with persons of the same sex as themselves. Until the last century, gay people having children was the rule, not the exception.
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: And I personally think, that adultery is also destructive, since it puts a high threat on the girl getting pregnant without a contract from the male ; insuring that he would never run & he would take care of the baby forever (along with the baby's mother).
You're on firmer ground here, but more because of the betrayal of trust involved in my opinion. Still, not something over which to get stoned to death.
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: Mmmm the problem is people picking up on gays because they're a minority, yet neglect and ignore other destructive acts, like for example, taking interest on loans !
Lending at interest is one of the things that has made modern society possible. As all parties enter into agreement voluntarily, it is again no skin off anyone else's nose provided it does not descend into loansharking.
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: Furthermore, Arab societies are just that insane & has an honor complex, which the sunni & shia faith just keeps pumping.
But to a level, of executing gays ? that's madness.
A point on which we agree.
(March 22, 2015 at 11:14 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: And just on a side note, homosexuality is very widely spread in Sunni societies, but mainly practiced underground
A hundred years ago, it was like that in the West as well.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.