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New Testament arguments
RE: New Testament arguments
(March 23, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Smaug Wrote: Well, it's obviously not a normal, median state. And it depends on what struggle do you mean. If we're talking of a terminally ill patient that may be it. But if we're talking about, say, people at war (that I've mentioned above) it's not a general rule. Even after months in wet, rat-infested trenches literaly filled with a smell of death people still wanted to live.

If by "normal" you mean "popular," I agree.

I'm referring to the internal struggle. When your entire existence feels like you're just treading water and struggling to stay afloat, succumbing to oblivion becomes a tempting and peaceful proposition. Years of mental anguish can lead one to yearn for death, and I dare say that has nothing to do with being brainwashed or a fool.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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