(March 24, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Drich Wrote: 1) there are so many things wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin...
In your estimation when did God create Hell? Use Genesis and point to one of the seven days listed... Just about every single account of Hell shows it to be the absents of creation, the death of it, or the place where the created is destroyed.
(The grave, the pit, the lake of fire, eternal darkness.) to me hell seems to be the absence of creation, not part of it.
(March 24, 2015 at 1:50 pm)urlawyer Wrote: This I can agree with. God is depicted quite frequently doing loveless things. Like leveling whole cities and committing mass genocide.now youre getting it!
Not everyone wants to be loved by God.
(March 24, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Drich Wrote: Third what makes you think we are all God's creation? The bible only ever says God created Adam, and from Adam God took a rib and then produced Eve, every other being after that was a reproduction of what God initially created.
Job 10:8-12
Your hands fashioned and made me, and now you have destroyed me altogether. Remember that you have made me like clay; and will you return me to the dust? Did you not pour me out like milk and curdle me like cheese? You clothed me with skin and flesh, and knit me together with bones and sinews. You have granted me life and steadfast love, and your care has preserved my spirit.[/quote]do you not know in this passage Job was speaking directly about Himself? The orginal intent of this passage was not to establish that everyone was purpose built by God.
Quote:Ephesians 4:24because... We are REproductions of A&E, and they were literally fashioned by the Hand of God.
And to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.
Quote:Psalms 22:9-10again see what I said about your passage in job. Here David is lementing in song about his recent sin with Bathsheba, not describing a God who hand makes everyone.
Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother's breasts. On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God.
Quote:These are only just a few.maybe this time list a few that supports exactly what you said.
Quote:I would beg to differ. Because of god's plan, everything is laid out for us and no matter what, we're going to end up where we're going to end up. This life would then be a pointless "showing" that we're what God knew we were all along.maybe to God... But not to you.
(March 24, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Drich Wrote: That is four wrong statements for four charges stated. That's a new recordIndeed
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Double indeed.