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Mandatory voting
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RE: Mandatory voting
(March 26, 2015 at 7:04 am)Aractus Wrote: An equitable democracy means that everyone has an equal voice, and that all socioeconomic classes and all other sub-groups of society (for example, women) have an equal say and an equal opportunity in voting. Without that you do not have a real democracy.
There is no issue with people having an equal opportunity to vote, this is established. The fact that some people choose not to exercise their right to vote is not sufficient reason for the state to dictate my behavior.

(March 26, 2015 at 7:04 am)Aractus Wrote: Um, perhaps you don't understand. Let's say Joe is a member of the working class, and Joe exercises his right to vote at every election, as does all of his friends. Joe is frustrated though that his group is under-represented because other members of his socioeconomic class don't see the same value in voting that he does. Is that [i/]his fault[/i]? "Fuck him"? I don't think so. It's a population benefit.
Um, perhaps you don't understand the definition of apathy. This is the only reasonable explanation for you targeting an engaged voter as the object of my disdain.

(March 26, 2015 at 7:04 am)Aractus Wrote: Well now I've given you a new example. Not wearing your seatbelt does not put another person at risk.
After what I have already shared, do you honestly think I would find this argument compelling? Seat belt laws for adults should be repealed; the same for states with motorcycle helmet laws. You aren't advocating for a free society, you are pushing a form of paternalism.

It also seems as if you are arguing that since there are already liberty eroding laws on the books then I should just accept more.

(March 26, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Dystopia Wrote:
Quote:"We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; ..." - Thomas Jefferson (original draft of the Declaration of Independence).
Not to mention that the quote is full of complete utter bullshit that remains to be proven, I see no reason to hold it as being the truth because it's based merely on classic liberalism and its principles.

So you support a society where a fellow citizen or the state can arbitrarily and without reasonable cause or justification deprive you of your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness?
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Messages In This Thread
Mandatory voting - by popeyespappy - March 19, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by c172 - March 19, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Silver - March 19, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by popeyespappy - March 19, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by IATIA - March 26, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 19, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by popeyespappy - March 19, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Ravenshire - March 19, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by JuliaL - March 19, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 19, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by vorlon13 - March 19, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by vorlon13 - March 19, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Mister Agenda - March 19, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Minimalist - March 19, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Silver - March 19, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Mister Agenda - March 23, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by popeyespappy - March 23, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by KevinM1 - March 23, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by c172 - March 19, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by popeyespappy - March 19, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Ravenshire - March 19, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 19, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by rexbeccarox - March 19, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 19, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Jenny A - March 19, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Esquilax - March 20, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 20, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 20, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 20, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Ravenshire - March 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 23, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Minimalist - March 20, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Minimalist - March 23, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Minimalist - March 23, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by SteelCurtain - March 23, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by CapnAwesome - March 23, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 23, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by CapnAwesome - March 24, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Minimalist - March 23, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 24, 2015 at 6:34 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 25, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 26, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 26, 2015 at 6:00 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 26, 2015 at 7:04 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Ravenshire - March 26, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 26, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 28, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by AFTT47 - March 26, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 26, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Ravenshire - March 26, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 26, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 27, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by jesus_wept - March 26, 2015 at 6:21 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 26, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by IATIA - March 26, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by jesus_wept - March 28, 2015 at 8:19 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 26, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Vox Populi - March 26, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by AFTT47 - March 26, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 27, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by AFTT47 - March 27, 2015 at 2:17 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Cato - March 28, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 27, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Thumpalumpacus - March 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Mandatory voting - by IATIA - March 28, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by I_am_not_mafia - March 27, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 27, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by popeyespappy - March 27, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Dystopia - March 27, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by AFTT47 - March 27, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by Aractus - March 28, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Mandatory voting - by IATIA - March 28, 2015 at 1:48 pm

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