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Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith"
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RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith"
(March 27, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: Believing that you never ever did anything wrong sorta undermines your sincerity during the ASK process now doesn't it. I know of one member (above) who said he participated in an orgy and apparent doesn't recognize that kind of activity as a sin and even justifies it. Now he seems to imply that he did try ASK to no avail. Well duh!

Again, you can't propose a test that requires the subject to presuppose the thing the test is attempting to prove. That's not falsifiable, it's biased and circular.

Regarding the orgy issue, my main contention there was that you were unable to provide a reason why that was wrong, other than god didn't like it; I'm not in the business of accepting arguments from authority, especially where they regard someone else's baseless opinions. I'm gonna need something more solid than "god sez!"

And I don't actually think it's possible to A/S/K the way Drich demands we do and actually have an unbiased result, because Drich's method, and yours too, apparently, requires a presupposition of the existence of the being in question, and that one just keep doing it forever, without ever engaging with the possibility that the test has failed. Drich, like yourself, has engaged in ad hoc rationalizations for the fact that the test fails for everyone that doesn't already believe what he does in every thread in which A/S/K has come up, so frankly, I didn't bother. I've got better things to do than chasing down moving goalposts, but I have plenty of evidence that nothing but agreement will be an acceptable execution of the test to him.
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Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by watchamadoodle - March 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Pyrrho - March 25, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Pyrrho - March 25, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 25, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by dyresand - March 25, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by abaris - March 26, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 25, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 25, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 25, 2015 at 9:46 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 26, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 26, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 25, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 26, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 26, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 26, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 26, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by bennyboy - March 25, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Mudhammam - March 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 26, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Mudhammam - March 26, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Whateverist - March 27, 2015 at 12:46 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Mr Greene - March 25, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by SteelCurtain - March 25, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 25, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Tonus - March 25, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by KevinM1 - March 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Tonus - March 26, 2015 at 6:23 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Pyrrho - March 25, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by KevinM1 - March 26, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 26, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Cato - March 26, 2015 at 5:18 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 26, 2015 at 7:40 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 26, 2015 at 7:51 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 26, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by AFTT47 - March 26, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Huggy Bear - March 26, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Drich - March 26, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Mudhammam - March 26, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Drich - March 27, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 27, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 27, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by dyresand - March 27, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 27, 2015 at 12:33 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 27, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by dyresand - March 27, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 27, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 27, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by dyresand - March 27, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 27, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by KevinM1 - March 27, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 27, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Ravenshire - March 27, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by KevinM1 - March 27, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Drich - March 27, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Tonus - March 27, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 27, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by downbeatplumb - March 27, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Tonus - March 27, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Pizza - March 27, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 27, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by KevinM1 - March 27, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by Esquilax - March 28, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Christian "faith" vs. plain "faith" - by robvalue - March 28, 2015 at 6:40 am

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