Atheism and vegetarianism

[lrh9]

It seems that a lot of people are moral nihilists when it suits them, and they can't respond to an argument except by denying that morality exists.

If it does, you should be able to back it up. It is hypocritical to require moral nihilists to have an objective, absolute, and real base for their beliefs about policy (which we do) without subjecting yourself to the same standard.

You're probably right, but moral nihilists probably don't hold majority views generally, and they're certainly not likely to persuade anyone of their views who doesn't agree.

I support most secular laws in my country because they benefit me or abide by them because doing so is better for me than not abiding by them.

I think the same could be said of anyone. Laws are codifications of policy law makers desire, and laws are enforced by those who desire to enforce them.

I attribute these desires to natural impulses and behavioral programming. I don't believe in an objective empirical morality that can be used to label people or behaviors as 'right' or 'wrong'.

I have no objection to the discussion and implementation of a system of ethics and policy based on that system, but I do object to the heavy handed 'right and wrong morality' you smack down on omnivores and vegetarians.

Face it. You haven't a leg to stand on except your personal preference, just as I have freely admitted of myself.

Where does that leave us? (I all ready know the answer.)