(April 2, 2015 at 1:52 am)Surgenator Wrote:(April 2, 2015 at 1:30 am)Esquilax Wrote: So basically, god prioritizes the free will of abusers to abuse people, over the safety of children. And you're okay with this because...?
Would you also put humans under the same standard, where if they fail to prevent a crime they easily could it's morally good, because they've preserved the free will of criminals? Or is it only god that gets this inexplicable, immoral free pass from you?
The freewill topic is a dodge from what Judi was talking about. Judi was calling bullshit on Lek's earlier claim on "good coming from suffering in people's lives." Freewill has nothing to do with good things coming out of suffering. I'm a little surprise at you Esq. You normally catch these dodges.
You can't stop a theist from dodging, but you can slap down even the things they dodge to. In this case, we might even call this moving the goalposts; Lek makes a claim, Judi shoots it down, and Lek's response is basically "well, what do you want God to do about it? Free will, duh!" Without even acknowledging that it's happened, Lek has accepted Judi's premise and made an excuse about it; evidently his claim that good comes from bad isn't necessary for him to absolve god of all the blame anyway.
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