(April 9, 2015 at 7:59 pm)Lek Wrote: It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not God is doing the right thing.
Well, you did ask where we could draw our hope from without god, not whether or not god was doing the right thing.
But then, you believe in an omnipotent god, don't you? That, in itself, provides a refutation for the claim that god is doing the right thing: being omnipotent, it is within god's power to confer all the benefits of suffering he had in mind for us, without needing to both go through with the suffering, or impede our free will. That's just in the definition of being omnipotent; so what you have there is a god who can prevent suffering with no loss of the attendant benefits, but chooses not to do that. It would be impossible to claim that this god is doing the right thing.
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