RE: Old testament v. new testament
September 3, 2010 at 4:36 pm
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm by everythingafter.)
(September 3, 2010 at 4:57 am)fr0d0 Wrote: In that story the people were choosing to live apart from God and were suffering the consequences. I guess we all expect to get burnt if we put our hands in the fire. I guess you could blame God but that would be misguided as you're blaming him for what are the consequence of his goodness... the bad stuff that happens when you act contrary to that. Yeah it's tough but it does you no good rebelling because of your crappy situation.
So clearly God is not at fault here. Any more?
Yes, of course, but he knew this entire woeful trudge through the desert, the almost ridiculous pattern of events (Israel disobeys, courts other gods, Yahweh gets angry, intervenes, repeat over and over), would take place before creating man in the first place. So you're saying he consciously placed man, whom he apparently loves, into this hostile environment we call earth with full knowledge of how much anguish and suffering man would endure. And, after the entire episode of the Hebrew Bible, he develops the plot, to make this hostile environment we call earth not the end for us, but the beginning, for now there is new suffering, eternal suffering, to be endured by those ever-disobedient humans, whom he created and with full knowledge of whole game before the first buzzer. The game was rigged from the beginning. So, why did God bother?
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We have lingered in the chambers of the sea | By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown | Till human voices wake us, and we drown. — T.S. Eliot
"... man always has to decide for himself in the darkness, that he must want beyond what he knows. ..." — Simone de Beauvoir
"As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again." — Albert Camus, "The Stranger"
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