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Old testament v. new testament
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RE: Old testament v. new testament
How do you feel about the old testament god?

There was a whole lot of killing. Not a whole lot of what I would call positive interaction.

Some make the argument that a creator has only rights, but no responsibility over the created. This seems to me a rather morally repugnant view.

There are some things the average joe would do to prevent if he had the power. If god supposedly has more power. So shouldn't we expect a god to live up to the hype? But of course such was not recorded to have happened.

How do you justify what he supposedly got up to? OR do you just write it off as a load of old story tales and believe that the new testament is the "true" word of god?

I don't believe in justifying mass murder or giving people tests knowing they would fail or destroying a person's life over a bet.

But if god is the creator of all physical reality, then god could be said to make morality.

For example, we believe that murder is wrong because it causes pain, because it deprives of will, for a host of other reasons. But these are valid only in such realities where bodies exist as they are.

Supposedly god could create a hypothetical universe where nobody dies. In such a place, the concept of murder is meaningless.

Still, I lean towards the idea that if god commands good then it is because it is good, rather than something being good because god commands it.

If they are the same entity, why are they so different?

Maybe god grew up?

Although, comparing an undeserved violent but final death to unending torment, perhaps the final death is more merciful?
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Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 2, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by annatar - September 2, 2010 at 10:59 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 2, 2010 at 11:02 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by annatar - September 2, 2010 at 11:12 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 2, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 2, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by DeistPaladin - September 2, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by DeistPaladin - September 3, 2010 at 11:18 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 2, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:57 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 3, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 3, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RE: old testament v new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 3, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: old testament v new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 8:22 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by everythingafter - September 3, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 3, 2010 at 8:25 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 1:08 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by downbeatplumb - September 3, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by lrh9 - September 3, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by padraic - September 5, 2010 at 3:39 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 3:59 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by lrh9 - September 3, 2010 at 4:03 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 4:21 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 7:13 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 3, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 3, 2010 at 8:16 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by everythingafter - September 4, 2010 at 3:00 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 8:12 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 8:24 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 3, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by FadingW - September 3, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 10:31 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 4, 2010 at 12:01 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 4, 2010 at 12:53 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 4, 2010 at 12:58 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 4, 2010 at 1:23 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 4, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by DeistPaladin - September 5, 2010 at 1:46 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 4, 2010 at 6:06 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by everythingafter - September 4, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 4, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 5, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 5, 2010 at 3:52 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by padraic - September 5, 2010 at 3:58 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 5, 2010 at 4:23 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 5, 2010 at 8:29 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 5, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 5, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 5, 2010 at 4:44 pm

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