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Old testament v. new testament
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RE: Old testament v. new testament
Quote:Or, it presents a picture of how whoever wrote the Hebrew Bible instilled patience into their god, but it says nothing about such a being had this push and pull relationship with Israel in this first place. Doctrinally, yes, the game is rigged. Why would God consciously choose to get his hands dirty with a creation that he knew full well before creating it that the creation would be very slow to believe and obey. He knew the whole vale of woe before it happened and yet chose to set it in motion. For what purpose? And then, when the promise of the Old Testament never materialized as he said it would, he went to the pains of sending his son to enact a new law and new covenant, as it were, this time, more personal, and presenting a more brutal fate for those who didn't accept the fatuous story. Why did he bother at all. The whole things seems unnecessarily complicated and forced for the omnipotent creator of the universe and of us.

Interesting idea.

For some reason or other, God decided to set this universe in motion (some way or another). When you meet God, you can ask Him why you were created or anything for that matter. We have to work with what we know, we know that we are in existence because of God (assuming you take that position) so lets look at your theology.

Why do you consider the OT to be plan A? and God sacrificing His son plan B?
Please provide some verses.
However, read Romans, it is a brillant book! and explains a lot of your questions. Read it with an open mind and dont look at like a fundamentlist would and you will see the incredible plan of redemption.

Quote:Just so you understand that right now your bible has been dismissed as bullshit and you guys are up the creek without your holy paddle.
By who? Atheists? Biblical scholars?
Quote:Oddly, the hottest argument is was it written in the late 7th century BC or was it written 4 to 5 centuries later. No one is even considering fundies bullshit anymore.

what was written? The OT? You do know they have the torah dating back to 1000 BCE?
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 2, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by annatar - September 2, 2010 at 10:59 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 2, 2010 at 11:02 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by annatar - September 2, 2010 at 11:12 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 2, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 2, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by DeistPaladin - September 2, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2010 at 7:34 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by DeistPaladin - September 3, 2010 at 11:18 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 2, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:57 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 3, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 3, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RE: old testament v new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 3, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: old testament v new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 8:22 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by everythingafter - September 3, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 3, 2010 at 8:25 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 1:08 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by downbeatplumb - September 3, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by lrh9 - September 3, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by padraic - September 5, 2010 at 3:39 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 3:59 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by lrh9 - September 3, 2010 at 4:03 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 4:21 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 7:13 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 3, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 3, 2010 at 8:16 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by everythingafter - September 4, 2010 at 3:00 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 3, 2010 at 8:12 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 8:24 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Entropist - September 3, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by FadingW - September 3, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 3, 2010 at 10:31 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 4, 2010 at 12:01 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 4, 2010 at 12:53 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 4, 2010 at 12:58 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 4, 2010 at 1:23 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 4, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by DeistPaladin - September 5, 2010 at 1:46 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by solja247 - September 4, 2010 at 6:06 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by everythingafter - September 4, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 4, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 5, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 5, 2010 at 3:52 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by padraic - September 5, 2010 at 3:58 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by mem - September 5, 2010 at 4:23 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 5, 2010 at 8:29 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by chatpilot - September 5, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Minimalist - September 5, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Old testament v. new testament - by Captain Scarlet - September 5, 2010 at 4:44 pm

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