In all seriousness I hate labels. Labels do not automatically make someone moral, not even the word "atheist" or "humanist", those are positions, not behaviors.
In evolution both cooperation and force work. Both compassion and cruelty work. These are behaviors our species has always displayed and will always display regardless of who the majorities and minorities are. I do not think it is wise for even atheists to think we are immune to, or above natural reality in evolution.
I only agree that viewing the world naturally without comic book explanations will give us better answers as to the nature of reality.
"Atheist" is not a moral code. It is not a political party. It is not a worldview. It is not a religion. It is not a loyalty oath. "Atheist" merely means "off" or "empty" on the issue of god claims. Outside that core position even atheists vary in their politics, economic views, classes, education levels, and behaviors.
I have run into atheists who are gun nutters. I have run into atheists who value Ayn Rand's "fuck you I got mine" economics. I have run into other atheists who stupidly think Che's "get rid of the private sector" economics that lead to Cuba, is possible on a planet of 7 billion. I have also run into atheists while rejecting standard god woo, have their own new age woo. I have run into atheists who buy conspiracy crap like 9/11 and JFK.
It is easy for our species to get stuck in the moment, regardless of label, and for get that "majority, vs minority" are time frame and geographical issues, but the reality ultimately is that we are still the same species. I warn even atheists not to think "When we become the majority we will treat you better". No, that sounds nice but we won't be alive 100 years from now to insure the behavior of those who will be alive after we die.
It is not saying give religion a pass, just merely saying atheists should not be mimicking religion or chasing their own political utopias either. There never has been a utopia and there never will be for any label.
In evolution both cooperation and force work. Both compassion and cruelty work. These are behaviors our species has always displayed and will always display regardless of who the majorities and minorities are. I do not think it is wise for even atheists to think we are immune to, or above natural reality in evolution.
I only agree that viewing the world naturally without comic book explanations will give us better answers as to the nature of reality.
"Atheist" is not a moral code. It is not a political party. It is not a worldview. It is not a religion. It is not a loyalty oath. "Atheist" merely means "off" or "empty" on the issue of god claims. Outside that core position even atheists vary in their politics, economic views, classes, education levels, and behaviors.
I have run into atheists who are gun nutters. I have run into atheists who value Ayn Rand's "fuck you I got mine" economics. I have run into other atheists who stupidly think Che's "get rid of the private sector" economics that lead to Cuba, is possible on a planet of 7 billion. I have also run into atheists while rejecting standard god woo, have their own new age woo. I have run into atheists who buy conspiracy crap like 9/11 and JFK.
It is easy for our species to get stuck in the moment, regardless of label, and for get that "majority, vs minority" are time frame and geographical issues, but the reality ultimately is that we are still the same species. I warn even atheists not to think "When we become the majority we will treat you better". No, that sounds nice but we won't be alive 100 years from now to insure the behavior of those who will be alive after we die.
It is not saying give religion a pass, just merely saying atheists should not be mimicking religion or chasing their own political utopias either. There never has been a utopia and there never will be for any label.
