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Are Particles 'Physical Things' or 'Abstract Ideas'?
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RE: Are Particles 'Physical Things' or 'Abstract Ideas'?
(April 14, 2015 at 6:44 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(April 14, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Nestor Wrote: The difference is found in how substances move (which are then formulated into theory) and how ideas move (which are formulated into grammatical and logical structure). Think of the difference of pure perception as in a waking state unaccompanied by rational labels, and pure conception as in a dream state accompanied by them.

Have you learned about quantum Entanglement, aka spooky motion at a distance?  If you are trying to challenge your view of what things are and how they move, I'd recommend looking there.

I've read a few books that dealt with it as part of the overall story of QM weirdness. It's what Einstein couldn't accept, and tried to refute with his EPR paper, I believe? And then what John Bell confirmed beyond doubt? From what I've gathered, I can understand why it makes QM seem incomplete. I've also tried to understand superposition and decoherence from reading Wiki articles and whatnot and can't make any headway with it. From what I gather it leaves three real possibilities:
Superluminal connections - simultaneous "telepathic communication" can occur between particles in any region.
Many worlds interpretation - every possible collapse of the wave function occurs in bifurcating universes in which the outcomes we observe are one of an infinite number of others that our many parallel selves also observe.
Superdeterminism - things just are as they are and there is no point in wondering if the outcome could have been different. Past, present, and future form a unified structure already in place, and we just experience conditions determined long ago, perhaps with the illusion that change is linear.

That sound about right?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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RE: Are Particles 'Physical Things' or 'Abstract Ideas'? - by Mudhammam - April 14, 2015 at 7:52 pm

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