(April 17, 2015 at 1:07 am)nicanica123 Wrote: Hello all. This is my first post. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have been agnostic for about a year now. I am open minded for either belief or non belief in god.
Welcome aboard. This is a good start, but dude, you got a long ways to go yet.
Quote:I have read a lot on atheist forums and also christian apologetics websites. My favorite is William Lane Craig. I am sure he has some haters here but regardless, he is one of the smartest mind on the theist side. His greatest skill in my mind, is how well he deconstructs bad/faulty arguments of those on the atheist side.
Which, then, must make it so very odd to you that he's incapable of even identifying his own bad arguments, like his "ministerial use of reason" tripe, or his "self authenticating witness of the holy spirit"; which are "only use reason that supports god!" and "I'll just keep believing in god no matter what evidence you have!" respectively.
Quote:For me, the simple, "show me evidence of god" argument is lacking. I don't believe that a deity that by logic would be a being that transcends space and time as we know it would be easily defined in that space and time.
An omnipotent being who, by all accounts, is capable of interfering with the physical world, would have no issue presenting evidence of itself.
Quote:I just struggle the most with the fact that it seems like this universe had a start.
Not all beginnings are god. Beginnings just get you to "a beginning," not "god."
Quote:And the other part that I struggle with, is that it seems like humanity is on a death spiral. I have read that this is a relatively peaceful time in human history and we have so many advances here and there. But when you look at global warming, nuclear warfare capabilities, worsening poverty issues, etc... it feel like humans will be bring on their own death within the next 100 years or so.
How is this an argument for god?
Quote:God's immorality in the bible - I know this is a favorite of many atheist. I remember Matt from the atheist experience podcast once saying that he is more moral than god because of the things that god condoned in the bible. First of all, if you can be a MORE moral person that implies a moral BEST. If there is a moral best, then that implies absolute morals.
You can derive objective morality from reality and the predictable way it behaves, you don't need a god for that.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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