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Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
(April 16, 2015 at 6:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Technically we pay for the "sin" by being "cursed" to toil the earth and have it's thorns rise up against us, to feed our bitching wives who will never be satisfied (also part of the curse) - and of course cursed to inseminate them with little bundles of joyous torture (take that EVE!).  Then, of course...there's the whole death thing.

Dirt got cursed to, guilt by association.  

That was what was passed on from generation to generation.  A life of toil and misery.  Hell is a bonus.  Not disagreeing that it's all a ridiculous crock - just prepping you  for the inevitably inane apologist's response.

Hhhm. People apologize when they've done something wrong. Ever wonder what Christians are apologizing for?

(April 16, 2015 at 6:59 pm)professor Wrote: The Fall of all men (women too) has been with us since the Garden, in that we all blow it.

I suppose Adam was set-up in the same way a teacher sets-up students with a test.
The kid fails the test and blames the teacher.

Actually Adam was not deceived, he was unwilling to be separated from Eve by her disobedience, and he knowingly ate the forbidden fruit,
 in the same way the Second Adam (Jesus Christ) partook of death to undo our disobedience within the Justice of God.

We're not talking about a teacher who doesn't know what a student will do until she tests him. We're talking about an omniscient God who supposedly knows the end from the beginning. Why would a being of any level of intelligence test the man to see if he will choose good when this man had no knowledge of good and evil? That would be like a teacher testing a pre-schooler on calculus. You make your god sound like a complete idiot.

Since Yahweh set Adam up, that renders what Jesus did of no import. Kind of like a doctor who gives you something to make you sick and then expects you to feel grateful when he gives you a cure.  Complete and utter idiocy.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 16, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 16, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by emjay - April 16, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 16, 2015 at 9:10 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 16, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Silver - April 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by CapnAwesome - April 16, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 16, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Quatermass - April 17, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 17, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 18, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 17, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 17, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 17, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 4:08 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 17, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 17, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 22, 2015 at 6:27 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 18, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 17, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 17, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 23, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Brakeman - April 23, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 17, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Polaris - April 17, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2015 at 1:16 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 18, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 22, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 23, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 23, 2015 at 5:58 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 24, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 18, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by emjay - April 21, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Brakeman - April 22, 2015 at 7:21 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 22, 2015 at 7:24 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 22, 2015 at 7:50 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by TubbyTubby - April 22, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 22, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 22, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 23, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 23, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 23, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 23, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 26, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 23, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 23, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 23, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by h4ym4n - April 27, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 26, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 27, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IATIA - April 26, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 26, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 8:55 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 27, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 27, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 27, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 27, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 27, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Longhorn - April 30, 2015 at 3:41 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 30, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 30, 2015 at 5:58 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 10:09 pm
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - May 1, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 27, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by IAOALGIV - April 27, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 4:42 pm
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RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Esquilax - April 27, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - April 28, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by professor - April 27, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Tonus - April 28, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 27, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - April 28, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 30, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Godschild - April 30, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Chad32 - April 30, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 2:01 am
RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up? - by Rhondazvous - May 2, 2015 at 9:05 am

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