RE: Omniscience: A thought experiment
April 23, 2015 at 3:39 am
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2015 at 3:46 am by robvalue.)
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Combining omniscience with omnipotence makes things worse for God. He can create the universe any way he wants, with any rules he wants. He knows exactly how it will all play out forever. So he is actually choosing that entire outcome at the point of creating the universe. If he wanted any outcome at any point to be different, he could simply choose another version which achieved that.
Therefor, he has predetermined absolutely everything about the whole universe, including us. We have no free will. And God is a nob. Why is he doing any of this? It's like making his own reality TV show in which we suffer for his amusement.
Since he predetermined absolutely everything, he is also entirely responsible for everything. That includes all the rapes and terminal diseases given to babies.
This is why these are such stupid claims (omni- claims) and theists would have a much easier time if they dropped them. It's too easy to make a nonsense out of their beliefs this way. I predict most religious theists won't accept my conclusions here, but neither will they be able to refute my logic. Much in the same way a lot of people don't accept 0.9recurring is exactly equal to 1, nor can they refute the various proofs that it is.
Instead they try and put some sort of caveat on the omni claim so as to somehow make God not responsible and to try and shoe horn in free will.
Combining omniscience with omnipotence makes things worse for God. He can create the universe any way he wants, with any rules he wants. He knows exactly how it will all play out forever. So he is actually choosing that entire outcome at the point of creating the universe. If he wanted any outcome at any point to be different, he could simply choose another version which achieved that.
Therefor, he has predetermined absolutely everything about the whole universe, including us. We have no free will. And God is a nob. Why is he doing any of this? It's like making his own reality TV show in which we suffer for his amusement.
Since he predetermined absolutely everything, he is also entirely responsible for everything. That includes all the rapes and terminal diseases given to babies.
This is why these are such stupid claims (omni- claims) and theists would have a much easier time if they dropped them. It's too easy to make a nonsense out of their beliefs this way. I predict most religious theists won't accept my conclusions here, but neither will they be able to refute my logic. Much in the same way a lot of people don't accept 0.9recurring is exactly equal to 1, nor can they refute the various proofs that it is.
Instead they try and put some sort of caveat on the omni claim so as to somehow make God not responsible and to try and shoe horn in free will.
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