(April 23, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: @Parker I do agree that the OP's wording is unfortunate, but I wonder whether you and I are -as- different from computers of today as you seem to believe. -and yes, I have many instances of computers telling lies which they were not programmed to tell..we call them errors.......I'll send you (rather than windows) my next report dump, lol.
Mistakes aren't lies. Lies have the quality of intention. That is the underlying point I've been making all along.
Quote:(You think you haven't been programmed - that you can point to this as a difference, willing to reconsider? Will all of your objections aim to simply assert computational minds out of existence?)
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression that I think we aren't programmed. I certainly believe that programming is a part of human consciousness. We've been programmed by our parents to speak English, we've been programmed by our society to accept certain behavioral norms.
The issue is, we humans can break our programming by virtue of our volition. Can computers do the same?
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I don't disagree with everything you've written here in this thread, and it seems like I haven't gotten that across very well. If so, I'm sorry for not being so clear. We don't see eye-to-eye, clearly, but I appreciate the discussion thus far.
