We are no different than computers

[JuliaL]

I do find all your posts quite insightful and more specific than mine, which is always welcome.

Thanks back, I never know if I'm saying anything at all, much less that I'm saying what I want to.

I see nothing to suggest that Nature is an intentional calculator or producer of anything.

Intentional, no, but perhaps necessary? Besides on comp mind theory, isn't that the case with us?

If computation refers to something necessary for regularity, even a stochastic regularity in observations, then yes, I'd agree that it is there and needed.  But I think that the minimum needed for regularity has to be compounded for consciousness to emerge.  So on the whole, the calculations nature does to run the universe are more common and much more widespread than those involved in organizing mind even if they are of the same sort.  To me they look necessary, but not specific to consciousness.