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"Thou shall not kill" commandment is hypocritical?
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RE: "Thou shall not kill" commandment is hypocritical?
(April 28, 2015 at 3:12 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:
(April 28, 2015 at 10:31 am)pocaracas Wrote: And god is automagically exempt from its own rule by a technicality of language, huh?
A technicality, let's not forget, that doesn't carry too well into "future" translations... Sounds dubious for a rule handed out directly from a god that, if we are to believe those "in the know", should know the future.
Jaime killed a man.  Billy murdered a man.  Does that mean Jaime isn't guilty of murder based on a technicality of language?  Or does it mean what it says, that Jaime killed a man and Billy murdered a man because killing and murdering are two different acts?
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"Killing" is a broader idea than "murdering."  Every murderer is a killer, but, at least according to some, not every killer is a murderer.  "Murder" means something like, 'wrongful killing,' or as a legal concept, 'unlawful killing' that meets certain criteria specified by whatever the law is in the particular place (which means, of course, that a particular act could be murder in one time and place, and not murder in some other time and place).  "Killing," however, does not depend on the specifics of the law or the particular time and place.  "To kill" is just 'to deprive of life, or cause the death of something that is living.'

In your example, Jaime may or may not be a murderer, depending on the specific concept of murder involved, and the specifics of how Jaime killed someone.  Both Jaime and Billy killed someone, and both might be murderers, or it might be that only Billy is a murderer, depending on the precise meaning being used, as well as the specifics of how Jaime killed a man.

To put this another way, all acts of murder are acts of killing, but not all acts of killing are acts of murder (unless all killing is wrong, and one uses the concept of 'wrongful killing' as one's meaning for "murder").

For "murder," compare:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...ctCode=all

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictiona...ish/murder

https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=murder

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/murder

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/diction...ish/murder

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: "Thou shall not kill" commandment is hypocritical? - by Pyrrho - April 28, 2015 at 3:34 pm

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