I have a soul hence I exist.
September 16, 2010 at 2:23 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2010 at 2:27 am by The_Flying_Skeptic.)
Lauri said "You do not have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body."--CS Lewis.
The_Flying_Skeptic says
Michael says
The_Flying_Skeptic
Michael
You can't rate something that isn't there. If it is underrated or overrated or rated at all, it exists. Quite simply, the soul is made in the likeness of God. God exists - just look at the world and how it was formed, there is evidence all a...round. To deny the soul is to deny the evidence and to deny God entirely. You are, in effect, saying YOU don't exist. And that's just absurd.
The_Flying_Skeptic
I'm not saying I don't exist. Descartes never said "I have a soul therefore I exist" He said "I think therefore I exist." I concur with Descartes.
Michael
Then you gotta ask, HOW did Descartes get all the info he has to think with? How did he gain the ability TO think? Who gave him the info and ability to think? HOW did he come TO exist?
The_Flying_Skeptic
Thought appears impossible without a brain... But, I know where you're getting at. You believe that your deity created everything, am I right? are you a young earth creationist?
Michael
Young earth or progressive...still sorting through the details on that one. That's a side matter. The point is that we already know that nothing can come into existence unless something else entirely outside its existence (or pre-existence) ...initiates the creation. This is just simple logic here. The soul exists because God created it. The soul (yes, a.k.a. the mind) is made in the likeness of God. It's really that simple.
The_Flying_Skeptic
Logical arguments aren't necessarily true (especially simple ones).: "all elephants are pink. I am an elephant hence am I pink." is a logical argument but we both know from experience that not all elephants are pink (where I would add that ...we both don't believe in a magical, timeless, pink elephant)
'Something else' is a very broad term. Something else is not necessarily the anthropocentric deity for that matter. 'Something else' could be an impersonal mechanism that makes universes possible that is yet to be understood. I will not believe in a god because people are too lazy to find the answers; I will not believe in the god of the gaps.
The details of your world-view are very important. If you are a YEC (young earth creationist) then you are in so deep that you'd rather believe thousands of geologists, physicists, and chemists now are wrong than believe a book that was written roughly 2,000 years ago is fallible.
The_Flying_Skeptic says
Quote:Souls are overrated.
Michael says
Quote: Underrated, actually.
The_Flying_Skeptic
Quote:Underrated makes more sense since there is nothing to rate.
Michael
You can't rate something that isn't there. If it is underrated or overrated or rated at all, it exists. Quite simply, the soul is made in the likeness of God. God exists - just look at the world and how it was formed, there is evidence all a...round. To deny the soul is to deny the evidence and to deny God entirely. You are, in effect, saying YOU don't exist. And that's just absurd.
The_Flying_Skeptic
I'm not saying I don't exist. Descartes never said "I have a soul therefore I exist" He said "I think therefore I exist." I concur with Descartes.
Michael
Then you gotta ask, HOW did Descartes get all the info he has to think with? How did he gain the ability TO think? Who gave him the info and ability to think? HOW did he come TO exist?
The_Flying_Skeptic
Thought appears impossible without a brain... But, I know where you're getting at. You believe that your deity created everything, am I right? are you a young earth creationist?
Michael
Young earth or progressive...still sorting through the details on that one. That's a side matter. The point is that we already know that nothing can come into existence unless something else entirely outside its existence (or pre-existence) ...initiates the creation. This is just simple logic here. The soul exists because God created it. The soul (yes, a.k.a. the mind) is made in the likeness of God. It's really that simple.
The_Flying_Skeptic
Logical arguments aren't necessarily true (especially simple ones).: "all elephants are pink. I am an elephant hence am I pink." is a logical argument but we both know from experience that not all elephants are pink (where I would add that ...we both don't believe in a magical, timeless, pink elephant)
'Something else' is a very broad term. Something else is not necessarily the anthropocentric deity for that matter. 'Something else' could be an impersonal mechanism that makes universes possible that is yet to be understood. I will not believe in a god because people are too lazy to find the answers; I will not believe in the god of the gaps.
The details of your world-view are very important. If you are a YEC (young earth creationist) then you are in so deep that you'd rather believe thousands of geologists, physicists, and chemists now are wrong than believe a book that was written roughly 2,000 years ago is fallible.
