The Historical Reliability of the New Testament

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The reason I'm not addressing any particular point here is that I'm happy to concede absolutely all of it and get on to the only important part: what supernatural stuff actually happened. You said yourself in the other thread, it doesn't matter what people believed, it matters what the truth is. And all the bible can ever tell you is what people believed. So if I grant you everyone is an eye witness, every non-supernatural word you want is true, even the authors are very reliable and honest whatever you like. Then what?

I understand if you don't want to move to the end of the argument, but I'm just saying why it makes no difference to me until we get to that stage. At some point a leap of faith is required to just believe what the people in the bible believed. Can you explain why that is not the case?