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Atheist billboards in Atlanta
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta
(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: The idea that Jesus didnt exist is held by a small minority of scholars and is ridiculous.
If by 'minority of scholars', you mean 'majority of historians' then yes, you'd be correct.
I think you're confusing regular scholars with religious scholars - the difference tends to involve the matter that the former researches historical facts and the latter has a degree in theology.

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: I think galaxies and planets are different than rocks which appear to be designed...
How things appear to be is entirely irrelevant.

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: The good old fallacy, if you are a Christian or believe in God you commit intellectual suicide. I will give you 10 points for trying.
When it stops being true, people will stop using it as an arguement. You can't hold irrational beliefs in the same light as science and skeptical rationality otherwise you really are committing intellectual suicide.
You believe in what is essentially magic, human resurrection from the dead, and a hyperintelligent superbeing whose only notable contribution to the modern world is religion - whose only notable contribution to the world involves killing people who offend their religion if they arent' also scamming people out of their money or attempting to convert the world into their faith.

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: Can science “explain” the age-old question of Creation? Certainly, physical models describing the origin of the cosmos can and have been proposed, at least since the 1970s. But these models face a serious technical obstacle: the lack of a proper theory to describe physical processes at the enormous energy scales prevalent during the first moments of cosmic history. They could be called scientific creation narratives, at least until they can be placed on more solid theoretical ground. We see old themes coming back, dressed in scientific jargon. In some models the universe was born out of “nothing,” a quantum vacuum populated by all sorts of ephemeral energy fluctuations; others see the beginning as essentially chaotic, with an ordered cosmos emerging homogeneously in three dimensions.
The difference between science and religion in terms of the creation of the universe is that religion states it has all the answers and science does not. It has theories based on what we know and some but not nearly enough answers.

The main difference between the two is best described as a math problem where science left a lot of blank answers but the answers given are all true if not at least close given the student's knowledge.
Religion filled in all of the blanks with consistent answers completely independant of any knowledge on the topic.

Even if they both get Fs on that particular test, science has done more to answer the question than religion ever can. What, after all, has religion ever done to answer these questions that have any supporting, repeatable answers to any of this?

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: The problem is we dont know anything about our universe to even speculate its origins...I say God created (I go out on a limb here) but it would be better say we dont have any idea!
You certainly do but science has some answers that have allowed humankind to glimpse into how the universe began to come to be in its current form far more succinctly with each passing year and each discovery in physics, astronomy, and astrophysics.

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: a) Not many serious scholars deny Jesus existed
Irrelevant. Unless there's actual evidence to that end, then it doesn't matter what their personal opinions are. Further, proving the man exists is one thing - proving he was anything other than a carpenter's son (like, say, the son of a deity) is something completely different.

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: d) Many other 'messiahs' rose up, yet they didnt have this effect on people, let alone the enitre world
67% of the entire world disagrees with that assessment.

(September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm)solja247 Wrote: As N.T Wright says, "That is why, as an historian, I cannot explain the rise of early Christianity unless Jesus rose again, leaving an empty
tomb behind him.” - N.T Wright
If this is one of your supposed 'scholars', then he is an idiot. He can't explain it, therefore Jesus resurrected himself? If that's his honest opinion, then he is no scholar. He's a shill.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 12, 2010 at 10:19 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 12, 2010 at 10:41 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 13, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 13, 2010 at 4:10 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 12, 2010 at 10:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by chatpilot - September 13, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 13, 2010 at 9:40 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 13, 2010 at 8:15 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 14, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 7:42 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 7:45 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 7:50 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Zen Badger - September 14, 2010 at 9:15 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 9:18 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Tiberius - September 14, 2010 at 7:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by chatpilot - September 14, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 14, 2010 at 9:19 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Zen Badger - September 14, 2010 at 9:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 9:24 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 15, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by downbeatplumb - September 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 1:52 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 10:08 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 14, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 15, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 11:57 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:55 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 7:53 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 16, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:18 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:26 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:54 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 2:09 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 9:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 16, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 16, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 16, 2010 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 16, 2010 at 5:30 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 16, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 16, 2010 at 8:23 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 16, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 16, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 8:52 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 2:31 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 3:04 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 17, 2010 at 10:11 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 2:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:35 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:38 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 8:39 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 18, 2010 at 2:00 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 19, 2010 at 12:10 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 17, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 17, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 18, 2010 at 2:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 18, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 20, 2010 at 1:36 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 21, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 21, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by padraic - September 21, 2010 at 5:02 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 22, 2010 at 1:15 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 22, 2010 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by downbeatplumb - September 22, 2010 at 7:35 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 23, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 23, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 24, 2010 at 3:43 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 24, 2010 at 2:14 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 24, 2010 at 5:12 pm

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