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Atheist billboards in Atlanta
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta
(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: What scholars would that be?
Trick question based on a fallacious statement of mine - it's actually completely irrelevant not one scholar has produced proof of anything like one Jesus H. Christ of Bible fame.
No bones, no dental records, no written records, no journalistic records, no credible eye witness accounts, nothing.
As far as the scholars and their opinions, I've never found a credible scientific paper on the topic. I'm sure you can find scholars who are religious but I'm also sure they'll say that they believe the accounts and I'm also certain that their professional careers will end as soon as they assert something that isn't grounded in evidence, like the existance of one Jesus H. Christ of Bible fame.

(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: This idea of being a skeptic is rather old. Being overly skeptic is being subjective and less likely to see what is real. If you dont believe something is real, it isnt, even if it did hit you in the face...
And if you're not skeptical enough, you simply become a gullible lout who believes in honest politicians, moral lawyers, FOX news as a balanced and trustworthy news organization, that you can get that million dollars if you just send that nigerian prince a few thousand of your own dollars, and creationism.
Each person in the world is going to set their limits to whatever limit they think is reasonable and logical. The problem with religion in this regard is that it is neither but otherwise reasonable and logical people accept it as such anyway because, as one poster around here put it, mankind is not so much a rational animal as a rationalizing one.

(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: Modern Science owes its existence to Christians. Your attempting to use an argument which is ridiculous. Why are Atheists so niave and ignorant, that if Religion was removed the world would not be a better place! People would find something else to fight about!
Have you been to the middle east lately? Have you visted the dark ages?
These places are the way they are precisely because religion and church took over. Science got it's bearings and skyrocketed in prominance "coincidently" at the same times that people figured out that secular governments work better than theocracies or when there was no religion at all (the invention of language arrived before any organized religion - as such, by default, science came before religion.)

(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: SOME religious people claim they have all the answers SOME.
All religions make claims that are completely lacking in both empirical evidence-based support and sometimes even logic and good reasoning.
By default, a theist is already making a claim to have answers about which no human could possible know.

(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: Thats not true at all. Science and Religion are both ignorant to how the universe began. I find it fascinating what we are uncovering, Religion says, 'God did it all.' Science says, 'Ummm not to sure, will give you an answer shortly/later/never'
That's not entirely true either. Science can give actual answers and has even already provided some. We know things about the universe when the bible tells us that light existed before the sun and stars, the earth is surrounded by a dome that, when cracked, caused Noah's flood. It tells us to believe in God's magic (aka miracles) and to do exactly as he tells us or he'll murder us all - in some cases, horrifically as well as sadistically (he turned one man's wife into a pillar of salt).
Religion has fought science at every step and every discovery.

(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: Our understanding of the universe is so primitive, it would be hard to take any theory about the origins of the universe seriously...
A limited understanding doesn't mean our understanding is wrong. There is a great deal we know for a fact about the beginnings of our universe and we generally know where to keep looking for new discoveries.
That alone, however primative, is far more than anything religion has provided in this regard.

(September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am)solja247 Wrote: Interesting. Lack of belief doesnt mean anything though...
How do you figure?
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 12, 2010 at 10:19 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 12, 2010 at 10:41 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 13, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 13, 2010 at 4:10 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 12, 2010 at 10:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by chatpilot - September 13, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 13, 2010 at 9:40 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 13, 2010 at 8:15 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 14, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 7:42 am
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by chatpilot - September 14, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 14, 2010 at 9:19 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Zen Badger - September 14, 2010 at 9:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 9:26 am
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 15, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by downbeatplumb - September 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 1:52 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 10:08 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 14, 2010 at 10:35 pm
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 15, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 12:03 pm
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:18 pm
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:54 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 2:09 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 9:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 16, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 16, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 16, 2010 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 16, 2010 at 5:30 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 16, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 16, 2010 at 8:33 pm
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 8:52 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 2:31 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 3:04 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 17, 2010 at 10:11 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 2:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:35 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:38 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 8:39 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 18, 2010 at 2:00 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 19, 2010 at 12:10 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 17, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 17, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 18, 2010 at 2:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 18, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 20, 2010 at 1:36 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 21, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 21, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by padraic - September 21, 2010 at 5:02 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 22, 2010 at 1:15 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 22, 2010 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by downbeatplumb - September 22, 2010 at 7:35 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 23, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 23, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 24, 2010 at 3:43 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 24, 2010 at 2:14 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 24, 2010 at 5:12 pm

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