(May 20, 2015 at 6:27 am)pocaracas Wrote: [ugh, use hide tags when quoting such a wall of text... makes for a better forum experience! ]
What are or how do I hide tags? I'm trying to figure out the formatting of this site, but it is VERY different from many I have used.
Quote:(May 19, 2015 at 7:46 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Now, I have a question for you: Would you agree that IF a creator God exists, then He must be superior to anything in that creation?
Let me see: how fast can the fastest human calculator calculate 1345684423673.65267845688 * 453167785.12345 *10^-4 / 12.54546773356 + 235.678324456?
Can we agree that the humble silicon calculator can do this much faster than any human could?
The calculator is faster than a human, but God would not have to do the calculation. He knows the answer before you ask the question because he knows what you are going to ask before you do.
God doesn't "think" at all. He knows. There is no moment of discovery or arrival at a conclusion for God.
Quote:That said, I don't think a creator "must" be superior to anything in that creator's creation. It can be superior, I can think of scenarios where that would happen, but I can also think of scenarios where it wouldn't. So no, I can't agree with your statement.
(even granting that mighty big IF which will need to be assessed in separate).
Hmmm...hard to imagine how the greater thing is brought into being by the lesser.
But I asked because one of the attributes of God is that he is holy. This is a tough word to define with respect to God...normally we say that something else is holy in relation to God. So, I'll try it this way (and I do recall that you are a non-believer - I'm simply explaining what Christians believe):
If you are familiar with the scriptures, do you recall the reactions that people had when they came into God's presence?
Fear.
Adam and Eve had walked with God in the garden before they disobeyed; after, they hid from him. Why?
God told Moses, "No man can see my face and live." Why?
I could provide other examples, but I offer these as representative of the fact that a Holy God is not going to be able to interact with a fallen race in the heartwarming manner which you described in your long post because we are sinners. We are not holy. We would flee from God in terror because He is awesome.
Only after we are made righteous are we able to come into His presence because nothing impure may enter heaven.
Faith in Jesus is what makes this purification possible.