(May 16, 2015 at 11:51 pm)Saxmoof Wrote: True, I should've said "if you want to make the case that most cops are good... etc."
That's what I meant, lazy phrasing
But when people defending cops say "not all cops are bad" which is the argument i was parroting - they're not saying that they're all bad apart from this one good one i managed to find that lives near me, they're saying that most are good and that it's just a few bad apples we should not focus on so much - that's what's debatable
False dichotomy - It's not a "hate all cops" or "defend them all because most are good" choice. What a despicable notion!
It is very easy to love the cops that do their jobs well and are friendly, to accept mediocre cops doing a fair job that aren't causing much trouble, and to detest cops that bully and attack.
It isn't important to define a percentage of cops that are "good" and cops that are "bad" as it is not important to define a percentage of black people that are "good" and those that are "bad." They are individual humans and only the training or other full group influences should be discussed as a whole in order not to sound base and ratty.
Cops are normal people who are influenced by the culture they are immersed in and the influences they face every day. Cops see more misbehaving assholes every day than most of us see in lifetime and it is unfortunate that in many this influence can bee seen. Cops are trained to control and protect cop lives over all other sensibilities, so that should be debated. To straw man people who don't believe every single instance of cop misbehavior is a reason to denigrate anyone that wears a cop uniform is not good form.
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