Challenge - Scientific reason for being moral.

[Cerrone]

A Christian friend of mine has set me a challenge –

He says I need a scientific reason for being moral and for living by the secular humanism philosophy. He believes I must have no reason other than a scientific one because I use science to rationalize my claims about the existence of any deities.

He didn’t seem to think that was valid... he didn’t even give me a reason why. Of course, I’m not simply thinking my argument isn’t valid... I think the problem is mainly him... he doesn’t want to hear it and just blocks it out. He wants to have me stumped. I would like to be able to build a better argument...

It's pretty simple how to answer this- firstly your friend (although why you want to be friends with a person like that is beyond me) needs to be reminded that you don't have to explain or justify your position. Your views are based on logic and common sense, and common sense has been around far longer than the idea of gods, christianity or supposed morality. A neanderthal understood that if he stuck a spear in his friend, his friend would die, therefore he wouldn't do it. That is common sense.

Christians love to claim a monopoly on morality, but they have no basis for this whatsoever.

Furthermore, after many attempts myself, I would no longer bother trying to deconvert a christian. Because frankly this planet was ours long before it was taken over by the sheep and their god of delusions; it's christianity that is the new kid on the block, not atheists, and the way it swaggers about proclaiming hither and dither is well deserving of an ass kicking.