RE: Why be good?
May 29, 2015 at 5:26 pm
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2015 at 5:34 pm by robvalue.)
The problem with any question that begins, "Without God..." is the suggestion/assumption that this would actually be a change. Since no God has been demonstrated at all, certainly not one that is actually doing anything, there's no reason to think "Without God" refers to anything different than the reality we know and love.
I would hope religious theists who are honest enough would admit there's a chance they may be mistaken, and that in fact they are worshipping nothing at all. Or something totally unlike what they think they're worshipping. So clearly the belief that some hidden entity is going to punish you is enough, whether or not it actually exists. Just like if someone tells you a sniper has you in their sights so to do what they say, if you believe there is the sniper, it doesn't matter if there actually is one or not.
Since there are contradictory God claims, with people all saying they get their morality from their God, a lot of people are going to be worshipping nothing / the wrong God and still somehow getting their morality. It seems pretty clear that the idea morality comes from religion is just part of the indoctrination.
I would hope religious theists who are honest enough would admit there's a chance they may be mistaken, and that in fact they are worshipping nothing at all. Or something totally unlike what they think they're worshipping. So clearly the belief that some hidden entity is going to punish you is enough, whether or not it actually exists. Just like if someone tells you a sniper has you in their sights so to do what they say, if you believe there is the sniper, it doesn't matter if there actually is one or not.
Since there are contradictory God claims, with people all saying they get their morality from their God, a lot of people are going to be worshipping nothing / the wrong God and still somehow getting their morality. It seems pretty clear that the idea morality comes from religion is just part of the indoctrination.
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