(May 29, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(May 29, 2015 at 10:36 pm)Spooky Wrote: It seems we're both surprised. Most christians react as if their eyes would melt just looking at such books. And likewise, I would not hesitate to read the 'The God-less delusion'. If I find it for a good price on ebay, I may pick it up. It will rest in the religion section of my library.
It is refreshing to speak with somebody who isn't scared of the other side's texts. Though on the whole, the reactions seem to be as above. Can you tell us why most christians refuse to take such a logical approach?
You think its offensive that the 10 Commandments are posted in a courthouse or a classroom. We think it's offensive that a judge requires it to be removed (after xx number of years). You object to Nativity scenes and prayer before football games. We object to having our traditions taken away from us. You think it's unfair that you're being discriminated against but Christians don't want a court to order them to bake a cake or deliver flowers to a gay wedding because they consider gay marriage to be an offense to God.
The traditions that you speak of can be practiced on your own property. No one is taking that from you.
Public schools are run by the government. The constitution states that the government can't favor one religion over the other so it tries to be neutral. School officials can't lead students in prayer but the children are not forbidden from praying on their own.
If you voluntarily own a business then you have to follow regulations. You can't discriminate as to who you serve but you don't have to include an offensive message on the cake. So, the baker couldn't refuse a cake to an interracial couple or a gay couple but they don't have to put anything that they find offensive on the cake.
The problem isn't that Christians are being treated unfairly but that they want special treatment because of their religion.