RE: The Historical Reliability of the New Testament
May 31, 2015 at 1:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2015 at 1:30 pm by robvalue.)
Yeah, I know all about Tim O'Neil. I have talked to him.
The first thing to note is that he argues for a historical Jesus, not a magical Jesus. I've never once denied there could be a pie and mash guy underneath all the story. So what?
He came in here and tried his best to convince us, and he got as far as Jesus having a brother called James who got executed, and that was about it. A few other mundane facts. He made some good points, and also overreached badly with fallacies aplenty.
So this is of no use to your argument since I already allowed you before the assumption that everything happened in the NT besides the supernatural stuff, including pie and mash Jesus.
Please don't conflate historical Jesus with magical Jesus.
And even if I allow your conclusion, why should I care if he came back to life? What's that supposed to prove? It's extremely unusual, sure. Spooky even! But...?
I have a very important question for you. Do you feel there is a chance you could be wrong? Could anything change your mind about this? If not, that is a dangerous state of mind about any subject.
The first thing to note is that he argues for a historical Jesus, not a magical Jesus. I've never once denied there could be a pie and mash guy underneath all the story. So what?
He came in here and tried his best to convince us, and he got as far as Jesus having a brother called James who got executed, and that was about it. A few other mundane facts. He made some good points, and also overreached badly with fallacies aplenty.
So this is of no use to your argument since I already allowed you before the assumption that everything happened in the NT besides the supernatural stuff, including pie and mash Jesus.
Please don't conflate historical Jesus with magical Jesus.
And even if I allow your conclusion, why should I care if he came back to life? What's that supposed to prove? It's extremely unusual, sure. Spooky even! But...?
I have a very important question for you. Do you feel there is a chance you could be wrong? Could anything change your mind about this? If not, that is a dangerous state of mind about any subject.
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