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Ban Lucifer
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RE: Ban Lucifer
First off, I think it is hilarious that a network whose hallmark and flagship programming is FOX NEWS (Conservative Christian Propaganda) would actually air a show about Lucier/Satan/The Devil as one of its newest drama series.  What were they thinking?  Oh yeah--their bottom line is a thing called ratings.

Secondly, in Judaism, the word found in the Torah translated as "Satan" is ha-satan, "the satan."  In other words, it is not a proper name, but a title, translated as "the adversary."  In other words, the satan is an angel, the right-hand of God, one of the Host of Heaven.  To quote from an essay I wrote about where Christian doctrines come from:


Quote:The Hebrew word mal'akh means “one who is sent” or “messenger” and is used in reference to either human or other beings. In Judaic mythology, these messengers, when sent from Yahweh, are by necessity spiritual beings on an order above humanity. Other beings are classified that are distinguished from Mal'akhim (-im being the plural suffix in Hebrew): Irinim (“Watchers”/High Angels), Cherubim (Mighty Ones), Sarim (Princes), Seraphim (Fiery Ones), Chayyot ([Holy] Creatures), amd Ofanim (Wheels). Collectively they are called Tzeva (Host), B'nai Elim (Sons of God), and Kedoshim (Holy Ones). Altogether they constitute an Adat El (Council of God), a divine assembly.

...The concept of fallen angels seems to have come from Judaism, namely the Essenes. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain texts which make reference to “sons of God” and non-canonical Jewish literature identifies them as fallen angels. The Nephilim mentioned in Genesis were in earlier Jewish mythology identified as the offspring of the union of the “sons of God” and human women. This is not unique or unusal in the myths of other peoples. Greek mythology, for example is full of stories where gods mate with humans to result in demi-god heroes, such as Hercules and Ajax...

The word satan does exist in Hebrew, and occurs alone (without definite articles) three times in the Torah/Old Testament (Numbers 22:22, 1 Samuel 29:4, and Psalms 109:6). The word means primarily “to obstruct, oppose.” But when the word is paired with the definite articled ha-, “the”(which it does 13 times in the Masoretic Text), it is Ha-Satan, “the accuser” or “the adversery.” In Hebrew this indicates that “the adversay” is a title bestowed upon a being, as opposed to being the name of a being. In Judaism it is not a proper name, thus the being would be referred to as “the satan.” So the concept of Satan within Judaism is very different from the Christian concept of Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, Ha-Satan is an angel whose mission is to add difficulty, challenges, and growth experiences in life. The idea that there exists a being capable of setting itself up as Yahweh's opponent is polytheistic. For religious Jews, Ha-Satan is not a god. Rather, The Adversary is Yahweh's servant, one of the Tzeva, not his enemy.
The modern Christian concept of a devil who is God's enemy comes from three main sources: the dualism of Zoroastrianism (the good god Ahura Mazda and his opponent the evil god Ahriman), and a similar concept in ancient Egyptian religion (the battle between Horus and Set), and ancient Greek religion (the god Hades as ruler of the underworld [Christian Hell]).
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--Thomas Jefferson
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Ban Lucifer - by Mental Outlaw - June 2, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Secular Elf - June 2, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by IATIA - June 6, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by LastPoet - June 2, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Chad32 - June 2, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Chad32 - June 2, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Chad32 - June 2, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by LastPoet - June 2, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by zebo-the-fat - June 2, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Chad32 - June 2, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by KevinM1 - June 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Cato - June 2, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Mental Outlaw - June 4, 2015 at 12:48 pm
Ban Lucifer - by nonazis - June 2, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Secular Elf - June 2, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by RobbyPants - June 4, 2015 at 7:50 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Mental Outlaw - June 5, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Aroura - June 6, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 5, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Mental Outlaw - June 6, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 6, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Goosebump - June 6, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Goosebump - June 7, 2015 at 12:32 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Aroura - June 7, 2015 at 1:36 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Aroura - June 7, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Goosebump - June 7, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Aroura - June 7, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 7, 2015 at 1:47 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Goosebump - June 7, 2015 at 1:55 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 7, 2015 at 2:10 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Goosebump - June 7, 2015 at 2:18 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 7, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Goosebump - June 7, 2015 at 2:45 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by robvalue - June 7, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by IATIA - June 7, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by dyresand - June 7, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Ban Lucifer - by Aroura - June 8, 2015 at 3:52 pm

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