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Atheist billboards in Atlanta
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RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta
Quote:I fail to see how this can happen. It just seems like this idea of 'too skeptical' you have is quickly becoming a hyperbole if it hasn't been already, not that there aren't nihilists or solipsists as it is.
Not htat I don't find solipsism entertaining.

I still am a skeptic, to a degree and objectiveity cant be reached unless you believe it could of happened. For example if I was too say, 'Napoleon lived in the 18th century.' I cant be skeptic about Napoleon because I believe he lived. If one says, 'Pft, the Bible is a load of S*#$' Anything arguing the contrary is not going to get through to them, because they are being subjective and dont believe anything in the Bible is historical...

Quote:... which explains why scientists tend to be more secular/non-religious than the genral public.

The reason is, because in the 18th and 17th century people wanted to dismiss God (aka modernism) Modernism still exists in the world today. I believe God can exist because of my world view, just like Dawkins believes was God disproven by evolution, its all about worldview...

Quote:Irrational views on the world are not conductive to being a good scientist.

Irrational views according to you?

Quote:And the fact is that despite what a few 'religious scholars' tell you, everything I said in my preivous post regarding your religion and religion in general is still true.

How so?

Quote:I'm sure he made a very convincing arguement. I'm certain he may have even said there is proof. I'm also certain you just said that he's a New Testiment Scholar. I'm sure he's very christian. I'm quite certain he has no actual empirical evidence.

Give me empirical evidence that Socrates existed.

Quote:I'm certain he made it seem like he did as best he could. I'm also certain that, as a religious scholar specifically for the New Testiment and as a Christian, that his religious views precluded any chance he may be wrong.

He was actually a historian, before a scholar and has produced some great works, perhaps you should read it, before you dismiss it so quickly, who knows, you may become a Christian...

Quote:That's why you're only going to hear about the truth of Jesus' resurrection only from Christians and Christian scholars - because it didn't actually happen. There's no evidence of it. None. Zero. Zilch.

If a scholar does believe in the resurrection of Jesus, they are a Christian! so yes correcto!
But there is evidence, the evidence you want is ridiculous...

Quote:That may be how you rationalized it, but the origin on sin is still written in the manner to which you disagree with in the old and new testiments

How so?

Quote:I think you can stop proving my point now, unless I'm wrong about the fact that you appear to be tiptoeing around my point as best you can while being vague on the point that you're still accepting some parts of the bible as literal less than others.

I want to read the Bible as a Jew or an early Christian would understand it, if that questions whether it is literal or metaphoric, so be it!
Gen 50:26 So Joseph died, being a hundred and ten years old: and they embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt.
Did Joseph live to a hundread and ten? Who knows, however, living to 110 in ancient Egypt, was a honorific number and shows his status and that he was a righteous man, rather than him actually living to 110 years old (who knows how old he was when he died?) perhaps he was just a man with a very status?

Quote:How much of that do you honestly believe is due to Jesus performing miracles and being the son of god or simply being a martyr to an opressive government over a minority (assuming those events actually happened) and Christianity's popularity being helped by a numbe of cruisades that converted many by sword point by simply being in power over a large swath of humanity for many generations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution...man_Empire

You would not die for something you did believe in:
Quote:In their very deaths they were made the subjects of sport: for they were covered with the hides of wild beasts, and worried to death by dogs, or nailed to crosses, or set fire to, and when the day waned, burned to serve for the evening lights. Nero offered his own garden players for the spectacle, and exhibited a Circensian game, indiscriminately mingling with the common people in the dress of a charioteer, or else standing in his chariot. For this cause a feeling of compassion arose towards the sufferers, though guilty and deserving of exemplary capital punishment, because they seemed not to be cut off for the public good, but were victims of the ferocity of one man."

Islam, had peace! It didnt suffer mass persecution, after its leader died, it went on a conquest! Christanity, on the other hand, was persecuted pretty much everywhere. It doesnt make sense, a belief in a Jewish Messiah causing so much stir. There were false Messiahs, none of them caused that much stir, this one did and the people were ready to die for Him and to become scum of the Earth, they were certain that Jesus did live, die and rise again.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 12, 2010 at 10:19 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 12, 2010 at 10:41 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 13, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 13, 2010 at 4:10 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 12, 2010 at 10:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by chatpilot - September 13, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 13, 2010 at 9:40 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 13, 2010 at 8:15 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 14, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 7:42 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 7:45 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 7:50 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Zen Badger - September 14, 2010 at 9:15 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 9:18 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Tiberius - September 14, 2010 at 7:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by chatpilot - September 14, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 14, 2010 at 9:19 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Zen Badger - September 14, 2010 at 9:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by KichigaiNeko - September 14, 2010 at 9:24 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 8:27 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 15, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by downbeatplumb - September 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 1:52 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 14, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 10:08 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 14, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 15, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 14, 2010 at 11:57 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:55 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 7:53 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 16, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:18 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:26 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:54 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 16, 2010 at 2:09 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 9:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 16, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 16, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 16, 2010 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 16, 2010 at 5:30 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by AnunZi - September 16, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 16, 2010 at 8:23 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Watson - September 16, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 16, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 8:52 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 2:31 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 3:04 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Thor - September 17, 2010 at 10:11 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 2:44 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 3:25 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:35 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:38 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 8:39 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by krazedkat - September 18, 2010 at 2:00 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by lrh9 - September 17, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 17, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by everythingafter - September 19, 2010 at 12:10 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Skipper - September 17, 2010 at 7:44 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Ashendant - September 17, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by Minimalist - September 17, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 1:04 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 18, 2010 at 2:21 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 18, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 20, 2010 at 1:36 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 21, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 21, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by padraic - September 21, 2010 at 5:02 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 22, 2010 at 1:15 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 22, 2010 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by downbeatplumb - September 22, 2010 at 7:35 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 23, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 23, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by radames - September 24, 2010 at 3:43 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by solja247 - September 24, 2010 at 2:14 am
RE: Atheist billboards in Atlanta - by TheDarkestOfAngels - September 24, 2010 at 5:12 pm

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