RE: The Hitchens "Poison" thread.
June 4, 2015 at 9:14 am
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2015 at 9:29 am by Brian37.)
(June 4, 2015 at 8:50 am)Pyrrho Wrote:(June 4, 2015 at 8:06 am)Nope Wrote: ...
I do not think that anyone should be allowed to teach science if they don't accept evolution as fact.
That would set a very bad precedent. There should not be loyalty oaths for current ideas. There should be proper training and certification. No one should be allowed to teach something without the relevant degree.
Um no, sorry, nobody is talking about stopping people from going to church or Sunday school on their own time. You are enabling people to falsely equate all claims as being true by default. Nobody is talking about loyalty oaths here. Gravity is not debated and nobody tries to teach that gravity was a product of Harry Potter. Evolution is also not up for debate either. Just like there is no need to insert Thor as the cause for lightening.
The problem with the well intended sense of fairness is that EVERY religion when they cant debunk science they try to co opt science. I have been at this for 14 years and seen this tactic not just from Christians, but Jews and Muslims and Hindus and even once a Rastafarian. And even new age wooers and si fi wooers make arguments to claim science sides with them.
The truth is you cannot operate like this in either a lab or a classroom. It has to be bias free. Yes it is mandatory to question science which is why peer review exists. But if you don't keep it bias free, you end up with bullshit, it is also why con artists outside religion can con investors out of their money with fake contraptions because they use buzz words from science to convince them.
Science has to be treated as independent of religion and personal bias. To do otherwise because of a false, all be it well intended sense of fairness, is to set yourself up to come to bad conclusions, on top of being outright dangerous to the education of society. Mixing religion with science is stupid and dangerous.
I agree with Nope, you have no business teaching science if you cannot accept the facts science says.
(June 4, 2015 at 8:06 am)Nope Wrote: Wait. That article says that science teachers are using the bible as their main textbook? Damn.
I wonder if there will now be a group of secular homeschoolers whose parents are trying to actually keep them from religious indoctrination and if Christians will be as accepting of them as they demanded that everyone be or religious homeschoolers
I do not think that anyone should be allowed to teach science if they don't accept evolution as fact.
I agree. To allow a teacher to teach who denies facts, would be like allowing a Passenger Pilot to ignore their equipment because they believe Harry Potter's broom will fly the plane. Stupid and dangerous.
