RE: Ask a Catholic
June 6, 2015 at 4:52 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2015 at 4:56 pm by Randy Carson.)
(June 6, 2015 at 11:23 am)Iroscato Wrote:(June 5, 2015 at 6:35 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: By the grace of God.
Make your point, poca. There are lots of posts I need to respond to...
The existence of the graveyard of the gods does not prove that Christianity will one day rest there.
Just because some conceptions of God are fictional, how does that prove that all conceptions of God are fiction?
It does not prove anything, but surely even you won't deny it sets one hell of a precedent to go by. Just because you were born in this little slice of time, you think your particular brand of bullshit carries any more weight than the literally tens of thousands that have come before it? Come on.
I'm sorry that you cannot accept that in the grand scheme of things, your faith really is Nothing Special, but reality has this funny habit of being just so whether you hide from it or not
In the long run, this world and all your precious science will pass away.
Heaven will not.
(June 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Hey Randy, how about you start an "Ask All Atheists," thread, since you claim to know better about what we're all thinking than we do?
There is already an active thread like that.
(June 6, 2015 at 2:02 pm)francismjenkins Wrote:(June 5, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Pick your favorite argument against Catholicism...just one...and give me your question.
My favorite argument against Catholicism is the same argument against religion in general ... it's based on bullshit.
1) first we believed that the universe and man was created in seven days, then came biology, physics, geology, etc., and now most religions call that story figurative.
2) most mainstream archaeologists have concluded that the Exodus narrative never happened, which suggests that Moses never actually existed (this is a development that most churches have not yet been willing to concede, nonetheless, when you look at the evidence, it's very decisive).
3) Paul claimed 500 witnesses, the context of the sermon on the mounts implies there were perhaps thousands in attendance, yet not a single corroborating report or artifact in history.
4) we now know the gospels were written by well educated, native Greek speakers, not Aramaic speaking barely literate fishermen from Galilee. The churches response to this, to the extent they're willing to admit the inherent problems in their ancient manuscripts, it doesn't matter because all those authors were inspired by god, and how do they know, because they say so (and since they claim to be the official representatives of god on earth, the normal skepticism with which we treat circular reasoning shouldn't apply e.g. they get a special pleading, why, cause they say so, never mind that you could support any claim, even the most absurd, with this flawed reasoning).
5) Islam is a religion with over a billion followers, based on a story about one guy who entered a cave, alone I might add, and emerged from his cave with a nice bedtime story about his encounter with an angel (and of course he emerged fully equipped with a new buy-bull).
It's just one big long DUH!
I'm reminded of the story of the prehistoric tribe who would pray to the rain god to avoid drought, floods, famine, etc. Then they realized that rain would occur when clouds formed in their proximity, so they changed the story, and started praying to the cloud god. They then realized that the direction of the wind influenced the direction of movement of clouds, so they changed the story again, and started praying to the wind god. In fact, with each new bit of knowledge they acquired, they had to change the story. Eventually, a few of the smarter members of the tribe recognized the trend .... and became atheists.
If this were differential calculus, we would say the limit is approaching bullshit
Thank you, Cato.
(June 6, 2015 at 2:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(June 5, 2015 at 6:35 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: By the grace of God.
Make your point, poca. There are lots of posts I need to respond to...
Would you believe if I told you that you failed to answer the question?
What is "the grace of god"?
Maybe I should remind you that, as far I am concerned, there might as well be no god at all.
Google an article entitled, Grace: What It Is and What It Does