Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps

[Randy Carson]

"There's no evidence for God" suggests that Horn is right; atheism cannot be falsified.

When you assert "by fiat" (as I'm routinely accused of doing) that "THERE'S NO EVIDENCE FOR GOD", you are the poster child for Horn's entire article.

The problem with this is that atheists do not PRESUPPOSE there is no proof of gods existence, but after examining the claims made by religion they state they haven't seen sufficient evidence

The statement is phrased more definitively that it should be, because no agnostic atheist will ever tell you with absolute certainty that there is no evidence for god, which would be equivalent to claiming there is no god, which is strong (gnostic) atheism

The factual statement that could be made by an agnostic atheist is 'I haven't seen any evidence for god', which does not assume that said evidence doesn't exist

I'd like to believe that what you're saying is true, Neimenovic, but I'm not convinced it is.

I think that a sizable number of atheists come across something that supports theism, and they don't stop to say, "Hey, maybe this is better than all the lame arguments I've heard in the past...let me consider this." No, they set about finding fault with it because they know in advance that there is no God.

Now, the converse is equally true: the Christian/theist hears an objection to his or her belief and thinks, "Well, that doesn't square with what I believe; what is the error in this atheist argument?"

Both sides are equally guilty in this regard.

What would constitute sufficient evidence for the existence of god.....? Oh I don't fucking know Randy, maybe his allegedly omnipotent and omnipresent ass could show up for once instead of unconvincing apologetics -_-

He did, and we killed Him.