Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps

[Thumpalumpacus]

Parkers, I have no idea what your personal issues are but what you believe to be hammering is simply iron strengthening iron. So, hammer away at me all you like.

I disavow nothing (beyond Genesis 3 anyway, and even then I'd want to discuss each point specifically).

Then you'll have to admit that I do understand your conception of your god; I have read the same book, recording the same alleged deeds. That you imagine that to be a strengthening exercise says more about your mindset than it does about the god in question. Blind faith may feed on a persecution complex, but the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon.

God has committed no crimes.

So you approve of genocide, then.

Man, you must spend a lot of time reading crappy books, Parkers. Why not take a look at the one I recommended? At least you will be able to argue against what Christians REALLY believe about God and not the strawmen you set up, okay?

I've read the one book that you assert to be the ultimate truth. Why should such a book need further support from yet more fallible human authors?

You saw the photo.

Hitler visited the Weimar Nietzsche because he had read Nietzsche and admired him. The Aryan race was a twisted version of Nietzsche's "superman". Hitler understood with chilling clarity the moral implications of a Nietzschean world without God. Once he had attained power, he created the concentration camps to implement the Darwinian law of nature that would bring about the elimination of the unfit and the creation of a civilization that was fit for the master race.

Hitler also visited the Eiffel tower in 1940. Does that mean he drew inspiration from French architecture?

So, yeah, Hitler's "final solution" was all about doing "what was best for his people without regard to other populations." and the connection is obvious.

Only to those who haven't examined the history of the man or the movement he led. He was much more influenced by the wellsprings I mentioned, and the Nietzschean influence was not towards extermination of untermenschen, but rather, towards his self-identification. His ideas about the treatment of Jews were much more influenced by Luther's attitudes.

Nietzsche > Hitler > Auschwitz

Repetition is not citation.

But noooo...according to the stuff I'm told in the "Why Be Good?" thread, atheism (and the death of God) has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

Given that Hitler wasn't an atheist, this point of yours is vapid.

I guess Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot (to name a few) just weren't as evolved as the rest of you.

Well, it's a good thing I don't take them to be my role models. You, on the other hand, worship the original genocidal maniac. You regard his genocides as justified, while I rightly excoriate anyone, atheist or believer, who thinks that killing entire groups of people is the way to a better world. You defend the idea of your god Flooding the entire world and killing all but eight humans. You defend a god who ordered the murder of children in captured lands. You defend a god who ordered his warriors to rape and pillage ... yet with the very same breath, you castigate human tyrants who do the same.

Moral relativity, anyone?