[split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality

[theVOID]

1. We already covered the proposition VOID.

And I reject the presupposition. Morality can be rational and unjust, the utilitarian moral theories all have a rational morality that is not contingent upon ultimate justice.

2. No, Kant concludes that morality is only rational if God exacts justice in an afterlife. God is what we have defined as just. That's a given.

I was referring to Kant's own comments on his argument, it only requires that there is justice bought to the universe in a life after this one, it does not necessitate that a God is the being who brings the justice.

As reincarnation is also applicable as a form of 'balanced justice' God in this argument is a non-sequitur.

3. The reasoning is clear - this high moral standard only works with God. It isn't a bare assertion - but a reasoned one.

It works with any conceivable universal justice. Reincarnation with Karma also satisfies this.

4. This in no way removes responsibility in this life. That's a bare accusation with no link here.

Sorry, I meant to be more clear. It removes the necessity for justice in this life. That being, if one wants justice then justice must necessarily be dealt in this life and any justice that is not issued is justice failed.

If there is an afterlife where justice is done then there is no necessity for justice to be done or desired in this life. Justice in this life becomes arbitrary because justice will be done in the next, thus the only motivation for justice is to prevent further injustice and not justice for the necessity of it.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, it's just an observation.