RE: divine logic?
June 22, 2015 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2015 at 11:48 am by Pyrrho.)
(June 22, 2015 at 7:18 am)ignoramus Wrote: Guys, from an ignoramus who hasn't had the misfortune of reading and studying the bible to the nth degree, can someone please answer me this.
Is there anything "good" which has benefited mankind which can be attributed to the writings of the bible, quran, etc, to basically prove its divinity.
Something which logic, intelligence or just plain common sense alone could not have intentionally or accidentally stumbled onto?
EG:
Any mind blowing moral or ethical teachings which we are now only realising their social profoundness?
Did Jesus ever mutter to one of his disciples: let me tell you a secret, "e=mc2"
or maybe God mentioned the double helix somewhere in the old testament and we missed it?
No reference of a meteor from 75 million years ago doing a bit of damage to Gods property?
The answer to all of those questions is "no."
You do not have to simply take my word for this. You can know absolutely that that is correct because otherwise the religionists would be constantly bringing it up to convince you to believe. So it is a certainty, as certain as any such thing can be.
(June 22, 2015 at 7:18 am)ignoramus Wrote: My point is: If all of this "could have" been written by man, why don't we just accept it as "fiction" like we do with other books, novels.
Instead, for most, the absurd version of events seems the most likely! Why?
The Ancient greeks had lots of stories, myths, parables, eg: The Minotaur, etc, but no-one believes that was actual.
I'll never get it ....
If you had been properly indoctrinated as a child, you would understand why people believe such nonsense. When a child is raised, the child is dependent upon others (parents, typically) for everything, including information about how the world works. For example, a child is told that fire is hot and can burn and hurt it, and that it should not stick its hands on the stove. One can clearly learn that that is the truth from not doing what one is told regarding that, and so children learn to pay attention to their caretakers. Their caretakers may also tell them religious nonsense. The thing is, it is not presented as a separate category, to be judged separately. It is presented along with everything else. So, if one is properly indoctrinated, one will believe all sorts of nonsense, for a while at least.
The parents likely were indoctrinated when they were children by their parents. And their parents were likely indoctrinated when they were children by their parents. And etc.
In ancient times, people did not have a scientific understanding of the world, and most people believed a good deal of nonsense. So in ancient times, suckering people into some different nonsense was not that difficult. So that is how religion got started.
That is why religion exists today.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.