(October 2, 2010 at 1:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Of course you reject real morality... you can't embrace it for the reason demonstrated here... ie: that there cannot be one without God.
1. 'Real morality' or as I assume you mean 'moral realism' is possible without God in a number of ways.
Moral realism is the meta-ethical view which claims that:
Ethical sentences express propositions.
Some such propositions are true.
Those propositions are made true by objective features of the world, independent of subjective opinion.
There are plenty of naturalistic theories of moral realism. Desirism and Preference Utilitarianism are two to name a small fraction.
Oh, and your "there cannot be one without God" contradicts what you said below.
fr0d0 Wrote:That's splitting hairs. Yeah sure other supernatural executors of justice produce the same effect. So what?
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