Historian explains why Jesus ''mythers'' aren't taken seriously by most Historians
June 24, 2015 at 7:14 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2015 at 7:39 am by Mudhammam.)
(June 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm)smax Wrote: Ah yes, the old "everyone is doing it" argument. Case closed!Uh... no stupid. The point was a rebuttal of your claim that a consensus formed around Jesus' existence has little to do with historiography and much to do with "comfort," which one might also derive from insulating themselves from logical thought, as seems to be the case here in your inability to follow a rather straightforward exchange of statements that began with you saying:
(June 21, 2015 at 11:26 am)smax Wrote: When there is a lack of evidence to support something, and yet it is widely believed, it is obviously because people want to believe it. In the case of Jesus, we find that people do not necessarily agree about who or what he was, but we find that a large percentage of people take comfort in believing that he existed in one form or another.
Quote:None of the verifications I called for are even remotely close to be "incredible". And, I'll be quite frank in saying that I don't care about any of the figures you mentioned or the validity of their historical existence. In other words, it's irrelevant whether they can be verified or not because it's basically inconsequential. It falls in the category of "who cares?". Given the cultural and social significance of an alleged Jesus Christ, however, I see great significance and relevance in the need to verify his existence as an actual historical figure. And, to that end, I find the evidence to be overwhelmingly lacking, as you have unwittingly acknowledged by meeting not one single burden of proof.In other words, no, you're not able to. I had assumed as much, based on your ignorance of ancient records, in which you thought that by asking to be shown Jesus' birth certificate and trial records, and that no one being able to produce them, credible doubt of his historical existence would therefore be established. Lol. Go read an introductory text on ancient history before you make yourself appear a bigger dimwit than you already have.
Quote:Not at all. But I will note yet another completely baseless conclusion reached on your part. Not that it was needed, but your assessment does serve as reinforcement to my position.A position which you have, like religious fundamentalists, nothing but faith to rely upon.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza