(June 24, 2015 at 5:06 am)abaris Wrote:(June 24, 2015 at 1:18 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Nonsense. They were Confederate soldiers, not American. Simply because they were born in America doesn't make them American soldiers.
Parker, do you realize you're playing the no true scotsman card?![]()
They were Americans before and - if they survived - after the events. And in between it's also up for debate, since they certainly understood themselves as Americans, just not as members of the Union.
If I were to enlist in the Bundeswehr, would I be an American soldier? Or a German soldier?
I would be an American by birth, but as a soldier, I would be German, insofar as that country was the object of my loyalty and discipline. When I say that they weren't American soldiers, it's pointing up that they weren't under American orders, and obviously were not fighting for the United States.