Best of all possible worlds offense

[RobbyPants]

There another implicit assumption that often gets overlooked. These arguments assume that God actually cares about us at all. Like you say, what he wants may well not be best for us. It might even be terrible for us. How can we tell the difference between a good god who doesn't lie, and a lying God who tells us he doesn't lie? Unless you have God-lie detecting powers, you can't. So all you can judge it on is his "actions" which are shit.

You know, something I just thought of: what if humans are just part of God's greater good, and not the end result? Rather than God trying to make the best possible world for us that happens to include suffering, maybe he's trying to make the best possible universe, and humans that suffer helps that out.

I mean, I've heard Christians say before that you can't have good without evil, light without dark, happiness without suffering, etc. Maybe humans that suffer, and humans that go to hell exist solely so God can be happier in heaven! It's logically consistent with most apologetics concerning the problem of evil and similar topics.

Jfyi; it states to fear not that the lord will give the truth when conversing nonbelievers. In faith and right positive of course.

And how do you know he's telling the truth? How do you know you can trust God or trust the Bible?